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Will Jodi Make A Deal?

According to abc15.com (link to full article below) it’s possible that the lawyers will agree to end the case without a trial and give Arias a life sentence without parole. Several factors will be weighed by Maricopa County’s top prosecutor, Bill Montgomery, including feedback from the Alexander family. He declined to say if the defense lawyers had offered to take the death penalty off the table but added he has an ‘ethical obligation’ to consider such a deal.

On the other hand Montgomery indicated he is confident an impartial jury can be seated to determine the punishment for Arias. “We are a county of 4 million total people, and over  million registered voters can find there way onto a jury pool.”

Link:

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-update-prosecutor-discusses-next-steps-for-arias-case

Psych Nurse Comments

From the most excellent blog of Dr. Kristina Randle I found this comment from Judith:

“I am sure that Mr. Jury Foreman with all of his delusions of grandiosity ie. “my jury”, considers any view but his own inaccurate. I am also certain that he consider his warped outlook as the only one and hung the jury 8 to 4, rather than the original 11 to 1 count after 2 hours of deliberation. He is much like Jodi as he wants to be famous and in the news. He is functionally coo-coo . And was not at the Jodi Arias trial or slept through parts he didn’t want to hear.

As a former forensic psychiatric nurse, (now retired) I have seen numerous borderlines such as Jodi and one and all have had no remorse and were all narcissitic and manipulative. Once betrayed, they are always dangerous, no matter how young or innocent they appear. They have the strength of 7 men when angry and it took that many to restrain them. I had an arm broken by one trying to subdue her!

Ask any psychiatric nurse or doctor who is their least favorite to treat and they will tell you borderline personality disorder because of all the manipulative lies and chaos they incorporate in their lives and while in treatment on the unit. The whole unit will be in an uproar because some people fall for their charm.

Give her death because she will NEVER know the error of her ways, her distorted view is that she is God’s gift to anyone she encounters hence, her arrogance.

I am sorry for anyone stuck with biased Bill on the jury. He obviously lived in a shell all of his life. I am only a few years younger than him but I am not naive nor do I let my emotions (in Bill’s case gonads) think for me.”

This trial has taken over my life. I never blogged or tweeted until this trial so I have learned a lot. I also feel like a quasi-expert on psychology and part of that is due to reading an excellent blog by Dr. Randle. Here is the link to her post about the jury foreman:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-jury-foreman-william-zervakos/

Juror 17 Answers Questions

Tara Kelley, one of the alternate jurors has been tweeting answers to peoples questions via twitter. Here is some of what she has to say:

1. Do you believe she was abused in any way?     Definitely not!

2. Did you believe her “fog” story?      Absolutely not!!! Was definitely not believable!

3. Regarding the jury ‘betraying’ her:      It’s all about her!!!

4. What did you think of LaViolette’s testimony?      Didn’t like her! I found her rude trying to spar with a prosecutor!

5. Regarding Nurmi wanting off the case:      Definitely can’t blame him for not wanting ti represent her!!

6. Regarding the juror who got kicked off for a comment she made- Tara confirmed the comment was about how if they can $300/hr for an expert you would think they’d get us more comfortable chairs. She also indicated that the jurors were not the ones who turned her in.

7. How did you feel about the pedophilia accusation?      Disgusting and ridiculous! I asked her for proof in my questions to her! Of course she said she didn’t have any!

8. Did anyone buy it (the pedophile comments)?     I don’t think anyone bought it!!! Too far out there!

9. What did you think about her claim of ninja skateboarders?     Ridiculous! And then Juan kept referencing the hoard of skateboarders and it was sooo hard not to laugh out loud!!!

10. How did you feel about the 2 minutes of silence?     Brilliant!!!

11. How did they ask you about the media issue with Juan (Signing/ photos)?     They didn’t mention it was Juan! Just asked a general question!

12. Do you feel Juan was too aggressive?      He definitely had moments but I think it was passion!!!

13. Have you seen the killer laughing and doing headstands in the interrogation?      What made me most mad was when she said: ‘Gosh Jodi you could have at least done your makeup.’

14. What did the jurors think about ‘child abuse’ claims?     She was probably spanked but weren’t we all?

15. Do you think the trial dragged on too long?      Definitely!!!!

16. (Nurmi) was basically calling you all liars and that you were going home at night reading, watching, etc.      I heard enough in court! No interest in goin home to hear more and we weren’t supposed to anyway!

17. Was Bill Z. the foreman throughout the trial or just the guilt phases?      Foreman was chosen at the guilt phase.

18. Travis’ anger all sounded normal relationship to us. You too?      Yes and I really hope to be able to explain what I think happened and what that May 26 text was about!!

And it looks like we will get a chance to hear Tara’s theory as she is scheduled to talk with HLN’s Darren Kavinoky and Dr. Drew this coming Tuesday.

 

Another Juror Speaks

Alternate juror #17, now identified as Tara Kelley is speaking out via Twitter. She was the juror who asked: “After all the lies you have told why should we believe you now?” She said: “I really wanted to see if she could answer that with a good response.” She also said that she asked about 75 questions and all of the ones about ‘No jury will convict me’ were hers. She mentions she still had to go to court when she had migraines, a reference to Jodi canceling court for her migraines.

With regard to the toughness of the prosecutor she said: “…I loved Juan!!! I knew he was very passionate for the Alexander family. His reaction to the hung jury said it all. He was Travis’ voice.” About Jodi’s comment that the jury ‘betrayed’ her: “What a bunch of crap! Of course she feels betrayed, she really thought we were all fooled by her!” When asked about the comments from the foreman: “I am very disgusted with what our ‘foreman’ has said! Please know that we didn’t all feel this way!!!”

Tara is scheduled to be on the Dr. Drew show Tuesday and a Twitter interview with Wild About Trial on Wednesday.

More From The Jury Foreman

We’ve all heard by now the comments from the jury foreman from the Good Morning America interview. You know – that she was ‘emotionally and verbally abused.’ That she was ‘not a good witness’ and being on the stand ’18 days hurt her.’ What follows are excerpts from another article by Brian Skoloff (Wild About Trial).

 

Here are some of his comments:

“The system we think is flawed in that sense because this was not a case of Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson” Zervakos told the Associated Press. “It was a brutal no- win situation…I think it’s kind of unfair, ‘ the 69-year-old added. “We’re not lawyers. We’re mere mortals. And I will tell you I’ve never felt more mere as a mortal than I felt for the last five months.”

He also said the most difficult time was hearing from the Alexander’s.

“There was no sound in the jury room for a long time after that because you hurt so bad for these people but that wasn’t evidence. That’s what made it so hard…this wasn’t about them. This was a decision whether we’re going to tell somebody they were going to be put to death or spent the rest of their life in prison.”

Zervakos mentioned Aria’s age at the time of the killing and lack of criminal history causing them to show mercy. He also said: “You’ve got Travis Alexander’s family devastated that he was killed, that he was brutally killed. You’ve got Jodi Aria’s family sitting in there, both families sitting and seeing these humiliating images and listening to unbelievably lurid private details of their lives, and you’ve got a woman whose life is over too. “I mean who’s winning in this situation? And we were stuck in the middle.”

Regarding her age at the time: “You heard (the prosecutor) say she was only 27… she’s old enough she should have known better. I didn’t look at it that way. I’m looking at 27 years of an absolutely normal everyday young woman that was living a life that was perfectly normal. Then something changed the trajectory of her life after meeting Travis Alexander and it spiraled downhill from there.”

Hung Jury?

The jury just came in and informed the court they could not reach a unanimous decision. The judge had suggestions to help (but not force) a verdict. She wants them to identify the areas of agreement and disagreement and follow the law. She also said that they could define the issue, fact or law they have an issue with and submit questions to help clarify. She then sent them back ti deliberate some more.

New Jury Instruction

The judge called in the jury and read an instruction regarding Life In Prison, Then the sides argued the point- Willmott-Martinez-Willmott. There were no media allowed in, though later they got to see a video. From what I could gather Juan argued she could be paroled in 25 years and Willmott said if the jury was ‘merciful’ and gave her life that she would ‘never get out.’

Jodi Speaks for Life

What follows is a summary of what Jodi said to the Jury today.

  1. The judge says Patty Womack had intended to testify about the environment JA grew up in (including abuse) but she is unable to testify.
  2. JA clears her throat. She has prepared a slide show to accompany her speech.
  3. JA talks about her Mom visiting her and after the visit stopping at a stoplight where the car stopped next to her was the Alexander family. Her Mom said: “I know they’re going through hell.” JA says nothing drove that home more than last week (the impact statements).
  4. The 3 by 5 card to call Steven –he never got that call ‘because of me.’ The last picture with Sam- no more pictures can be made with Travis ‘because of me.’ She avoided looking at them (but won’t go into the reasons). She wondered where the Grandma was and found out last week (she died). Mentions Travis called her last Thanksgiving saying Grandma was ‘ill and frail’ and he was worried ‘she wouldn’t make it.’ She may have inadvertently added to this. It ‘destroys me.’
  5. She waivered on suicide because of her family. She mentions her suicide letters to her family.
  6. She lists what she could do if she gets life:

-Donate hair. (Which she has already done a few times).

-Teach Spanish and Sign language.

-Start recycling program.

-Help with illiteracy, start a book club.

-Donate to Domestic Violence (she showed her ‘Survivor T-Shirt and claims 100% goes to charity). Mentions she knows some don’t consider her a survivor of DV.

7.  She goes through her life with pictures starting with her as a baby- she was the first born. Carl & her were ‘inseparable.’ She was 11 when Angela was born. Shows family portrait- which they now take with a photo of her in it.

8.  Picture of her with Patty. She gets in that Patty didn’t return today because her and her 9 year old daughter were threatened and harassed.

9. Shows picture of her & Bobby. The ‘best of times and the worst of times.’ No power, no support from parents buts figuring things out for themselves.

10.  Her and Matt they remained friends.  Her and Darryl- several pics with the 2 of them and with the son as well. Hasn’t seen the boy since June 2008.

11. Back to the family. Her sister and brother have children. She never will ‘because of my terrible choices.’

12. Shows her drawings.

13. She didn’t want to go through a trial and expose these ‘darker aspects’. She was obligated to answer questions asked on the stand. Says she ‘loved Travis’ and ‘looked up to him’…he ‘was my world.’

14. Before this she couldn’t ‘kill a spider.’ She didn’t know she was capable of such violence.

15. Her family is suffering. When the Guilty verdict was read her Mom said her Dad cried harder than ever before. ‘I caused that pain.’ She concedes Travis’ family has much greater pain.

16. Steven said he never wanted to see her face again- if she gets life in prison he won’t. She previously had asked for the D P. and found life in prison unappealing. Now she can’t ask for Death in good conscience because of her family. Either way she will spend her life in prison just shorter if DP.

17. She is asking that her life be spared for her family’s sake. ‘Please, please don’t do that to them.’ She wants their pain to stop. “Thank you.”

(After the judge reads the jury instructions- they are almost exactly what I recorded on an earlier day on this blog).

What’s Next For Jodi?

Tomorrow at 10:30 we will begin the Penalty phase. First up will be statements from Travis’ loved ones. They will be able to express how his loss has affected their lives. After that we have the mitigators. There are two types:

1.  Statutory mitigators:

  • The age of the Defendant;
  • The Defendant’s capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness of their conduct or to conform the Defendant’s conduct to the requirements of law was significantly impaired, but not so impaired as a constitute a defense to prosecution;
  • The Defendant was under unusual or substantial duress, although not such as to constitute a defense to prosecution;
  • The degree of the Defendant’s participation in the crime was minor, although not so minor as to constitute a defense to prosecution; and
  • Any other factor that the Court deems appropriate to the ends of justice.

2.  Non-statutory mitigators:

  • Remorse;
  • Love of family/concern for parents;
  • Lack of criminal history;
  • Employment history;
  • Low intelligence;
  • Prior military service;
  • Disparity between sentences (as in between co-defendants); and

     Prior sexual and/or emotional abuse.

The defendant will be able to bring on witnesses (I heard Alyce LaViolette may make an appearance) and she may also stand and address the jury herself.

Finally the jurors will deliberate for the last time on the Death Penalty or a Life Sentence.

I understand they can impanel a new jury if they are not agreed.

From: Arizona Mitigation- http://www.arizonamitigation.com/what-are-mitigating-factors/

 

 

Arias Trial Summary- 5/15

Aggravation Phase

Judge reads Jury Instructions.

Martinez:

She made sure she stabbed him over and over and over again and slashed his throat

He mentions her ‘painful’ suicide attempt and how excruciating Travis’ pain would have been during the attack. He takes us through the murder step by step. “It is only death that relieved that pain and anger and that is especially cruel.”

Nurmi:

All murder 1’s are cruel. This was not ‘especially’ cruel. You have to consider her state of mind and how the brain functions as mitigating factors.

Martinez:

He suffered pain every time the knife went into his body. He was able to see, breathe and hear- he knew what was coming.

Dr. Horn/Martinez:

Damage to nerve endings cause pain. A pierced heart can feel like a heart attack, affecting breathing and causing pain. JM takes us through the photos pointing out with each that there was nerve damage and therefore pain. He mentions the divots in the skull and the defensive wounds. Then he shows the throat picture and establishes Travis was still alive. There’s scalloping along the wound from either decomp or several attempts to cut the throat. The throat is not easily cut due to cartilage. Before this cut he could speak.

Willmott:

After the throat cut he wouldn’t have lasted but seconds and he wouldn’t feel anything so wouldn’t feel the shot. The top of the throat didn’t have scalloping. The chest wound didn’t cut the heart. Flight/fight means he had adrenaline and he was moving so he would bleed out faster. Adrenaline would have also precluded pain.

Martinez:

Regardless of the time he was alive when stabbed, slashed. Even with this adrenaline reaction he could still see, breathe, hear. He stands at the sink and can see, hear, feel, smell and think. Even with adrenaline he can still feel pain. The decomp can account for the scalloping but so can multiple wounds.

Jury Questions:

1.  Did you testify that Mr. A. had 3 rapidly fatal wounds?    Yes- the heart, the throat and the gun shot.

2.  In regards to the throat what’s more likely for the scalloping?     Because of the decomp I can’t really say.

Martinez:

Though all 3 wounds were fatal the chest wound would take minutes if not moving. The throat would have been seconds. He would not have been able to defend self or move around after that. The shot would have made him unconscious in seconds.

Willmott:

The first wound was the slowest but would have been faster due to movement.

State Rests.

Defense Rests.

Closing- Martinez:

She made sure Travis did not go gently. She also made sure he went nude. He was vulnerable in his shower, seated. Totally unaware. We know he felt the knife to the heart. Extreme mental anguish- he can see, breathe, smell and this is the person he was just with. Adrenaline or not it hurts, and she knows it hurts- it hurt too much for her to commit suicide. A knife in the heart- like a heart attack. She’s still standing, he tries to grab the knife and more pain. He can’t even get away- more mental anguish. It’s a paper cut to the Nth degree. He grabs the knife 3 times. This hurts. His hands and chest are bleeding. He’s still in a small area with a woman who’s ‘pretty strong’ according to Ryan Burns. She never lets go of the knife. He’s wanting to get away- what is he thinking about? His dog? His family? The grandma she sent irises to? To see himself bleeding. Not thinking about a vacation. He tries to get to the sink and get her to leave him alone. Adrenaline takes away the pain? Actually adrenaline talks to fear and terror and pain. He sees himself in the mirror. He’s in pain- is he screaming? Do you think he was quiet as a church mouse while all this is going on? He’s stabbed on the back of the head…sees blood, causes anguish, see’s the defendant. She’s striking the head- the knife goes into the head and causes a divot. That it painful. Seems like a short period- but it’s interminable for him. Lets just sit for 2 minutes (we wait 2 minutes). And now he got his throat slashed. Seem short? No- he’s continually stabbed and followed. It’s painful. Her ‘suicide’ was too painful. She gave him no choice. He tries to get away down the hallway but he has no strength. He’s bled out. He’s down, but still alive, seeing, hearing, breathing. The last thing he saw was the blade coming down to his throat. The last thing he felt before he left this earth was pain. Defense ‘Only 30 wounds.’ It’s especially cruel. Travis suffered enough for 2 lifetimes. He was stabbed in the heart and ran and his throat was slit.

Regarding jury instructions- to find especially cruel:

  1. Pain? He was conscious. He could see, hear, breathe. From the shower to the hallway the defendant was with him. He was conscious- he ambulated.

Physical pain. ‘It stings’ (referencing the suicide attempt) well he was stabbed on the back of the head, back of body, throat. He did suffer physical pain. Not what you want to do on a Sunday afternoon. He could see himself bleeding and being attacked. He tried to get away. He goes down and can’t defend himself. The defendant comes over- how absolutely horrific as the knife comes down. He knows. The defendant slits his throat. 

  1. Did she know he would suffer? She’s 27 years old. She knows what’s going on. She’s been cut at work, at Travis’ or stabbing him. Any reasonable person would know a stab to the heart would cause pain. She’s past her teens, almost 30. When she continued with the back? Absolutely. The throat is sensitive. That’s where she went. Every step of the way she knew, he’s hurting. Every time it goes in. The woman with the high IQ. It was directed to the neck. She knows. Whether Mr. A. was in fear or adrenaline doesn’t matter. She should have known how much he was suffering, until she put him into another life, and that is especially cruel.

Nurmi:

The jury has to determine whether cruel or especially cruel. He says to be mindful of the jury instructions- no sympathy or sentiment. A detached judgement. Has the state proven beyond a reasonable doubt? You have to give the defendant the benefit of the doubt. All first-degree murders are cruel to some extent.

The 2 elements:

  1. Suffer pain? The state changed it’s story from 62 seconds (where her story couldn’t have been true) to 2 minutes to play on sympathy. Dr. Horn/Flores changed testimony regarding the gunshot. If shot first no suffering. The experts talked about fight/flight and adrenaline preventing pain.
  2. Defendant knew he would suffer? About that suicide attempt- it was after she was in jail and the state said that it didn’t happen. She has to be conscious and processing what’s going on. Dr. Demarte said she had BPD and that she could have an extreme violent outburst. That’s what happened on June 4th. She didn’t know as she was functioning under this mental defect. Put emotion and sympathy aside. It’s hard not to react to the crime scene photos. Your job is to detach yourselves. The experts told you about her mental condition- she didn’t know she was causing pain. That is evidence enough. This aggravated factor was indeed not proven.

Martinez:

He is arguing instead of facing the evidence. He told you the state was trying to fool you. Not talking about the facts. The defendant should have known. She knew what a camera was and which of the 2 cameras had the photos she deleted. She cleaned up. If she didn’t know how did she even know she had done anything wrong? Who Travis even was? She cleaned up, took her clothing and put on the license plate. That’s the weakness of their argument. Of course she knew what was going on. You already used these jury instructions. They don’t want to talk about what happened. Changing stories? Why talk about that? He puts up a series of autopsy photos while asking: “Why don’t we talk about this?” Then he shows the shot to the head photo- the ‘Coup de Grace.’ In this case there is no doubt he suffered immensely. It can be physical OR mental pain. Dr. Samuels has a bad track record and Dr. Geffner is a ‘hired gun.’ If you take a knife you are going to hurt someone and cause mental stress. We don’t know the exact time of the first cut or when the throat was slashed. In those 2 minutes blood was gushing, the mental stress was only relieved by death. Thank You.

Judge gives instructions.

Deliberations begin.