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What’s Next For Jodi?

Tomorrow at 10:30 we will begin the Penalty phase. First up will be statements from Travis’ loved ones. They will be able to express how his loss has affected their lives. After that we have the mitigators. There are two types:

1.  Statutory mitigators:

  • The age of the Defendant;
  • The Defendant’s capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness of their conduct or to conform the Defendant’s conduct to the requirements of law was significantly impaired, but not so impaired as a constitute a defense to prosecution;
  • The Defendant was under unusual or substantial duress, although not such as to constitute a defense to prosecution;
  • The degree of the Defendant’s participation in the crime was minor, although not so minor as to constitute a defense to prosecution; and
  • Any other factor that the Court deems appropriate to the ends of justice.

2.  Non-statutory mitigators:

  • Remorse;
  • Love of family/concern for parents;
  • Lack of criminal history;
  • Employment history;
  • Low intelligence;
  • Prior military service;
  • Disparity between sentences (as in between co-defendants); and

     Prior sexual and/or emotional abuse.

The defendant will be able to bring on witnesses (I heard Alyce LaViolette may make an appearance) and she may also stand and address the jury herself.

Finally the jurors will deliberate for the last time on the Death Penalty or a Life Sentence.

I understand they can impanel a new jury if they are not agreed.

From: Arizona Mitigation- http://www.arizonamitigation.com/what-are-mitigating-factors/



Juror Q & A- LaViollette (4/12)

  1. Please explain why you feel Jodi is not manipulative either before or after the killing based on the review of statements and interviews.

Based on the information that I have,  (ummm) I don’t see a pattern of manipulation the way I would define it.  (umm)I haven’t seen that in terms of her trying to… (uh) and I’m not sure exactly what this is in  reference to so it’s a hard question for me to answer but I think anybody can be manipulative. What I look for are patterns and I didn’t see them in the materials that I read in terms of her relationship with Mr. A. so   I’m not sure how else to answer that.

**OK- I will skip the ‘uhs,’ ‘ums’ etc. Just so you know her sentences don’t always make sense. I also might paraphrase or skip a tangent. I will put  ‘>>>’ when I skip tangents…and this is close to a transcript- paraphrased somewhat.



  1. On the one side, we have demeaning multiple verbal slurs, a slap, a shove, a chokehold and a lunge perpetrated on Jodi. On the other, we have a gunshot to the head, a 4” deep slit throat and close to 30 stab wounds delivered by Jodi to Travis. Is not the perpetrator of the greatest domestic violence Jodi?
    I think what happened to Mr. A. is horrific <Objection> I think that self-defense <O> Judge repeats: Is not the perpetrator of the greatest DV Jodi? (waiting…) “No.”




      3.  In the hypothetical given by Mr. Martinez is it possible Travis was the one who told Jodi he wanted her to leave…if that were true then isn’t it likely Travis never hit her that day?     I can only go on the materials that I’ve read, (that were available to me) and when I look at that…ya know I don’t have face to face corroboration that he hit her that day. What I have is evidence that as she began to pull away things escalated.


      4. When Jodi went to confront Bianca about being with Matt can’t that be seen as  she did it because she was jealous?     It could be seen that way.  (Repeat). The nature of the confrontation didn’t seem to be hostile.  From either Jodi’s report Mr’ McCartney’s …so in that way she could have been motivated by jealousy but the confrontation or the talk didn’t seem to be hostile.


      5. Jodi went through Travis’ emails, messages and inbox (MySpace). Did you take any of that into consideration when making your assessment?     Yes I did.


      6. You bought Miss Arias books, apologized upon meeting her, and ordered her a magazine subscription. Did you do anything else to establish a relationship with Jodi?     Simply talking to her and meeting with her>>>spending the hours talking in jail with her but no, nothing else.


      7. Have you given her anything else?    No I haven’t.    Have you ever had any physical contact with her? Hugs, friendly touching etc?     I don’t think so, I might have touched her arm…in jail there’s a screen… and that was my meetings with Jodi…other than what you see in court.


      8. How do you know Jodi received spider man underwear from Travis on Valentines day? Did you see them? Pictures? Or anything else? The only thing I saw was the text message…she was bringing the Spiderman underwear.


       9. How many men have you testified for in criminal court?    I haven’t testified much in Criminal Court>>>so 1 or 2.


     10. If you had been given access to everything except interviews with Jodi how would your opinion have varied, if at all?     I think that um, well, I could have come to the same conclusion because part of what I read about the interactions between JA and TA, other women and TA, the Hughes’s responses, parts of his journals, first page of MySpace, and collateral interviews.


     11. Would you have adjusted your belief in the level of abuse if you had been given access to everything except the interviews with Jodi?     No because given my experience (and those she works with) the level of psychological abuse and character assassination was incredibly high in this case. (Gives example).


     12. Other than what Jodi has told you, in what other sources did you see evidence of physical violence by Travis?      I actually didn’t see other evidences of physical violence by TA, other than what JA told me.


     14. Would your analysis of this relationship change if, hypothetically speaking, you found out the stories of Travis being violent and masturbating to children were made up?      I would still rely on what I knew about the psychological abuse- (she goes into her working with victims) ….they say psychological abuse is worse than physical.


 15. Regarding non-verbal communication, do you think that you can read through a string of text messages, emails etc between two people and know exactly what the non-verbal communication is?      No.


     16. How do you know tone, meaning, inside jokes etc. if you cannot get both sides of the story?       Well there would be no way for me to interview Mr. A. but I read so much of what he put together (she talks about history –written documents) …rely on the written evidence and I had a fair amount that I relied on.


17. You said other sources said Jodi was not manipulative, who are these sources? Mr. McCartney and Mr. Brewer (previous boyfriends) she had longer term relationships with and when she was older I didn’t read about her being manipulative to her sisters or brothers…there was this period when she was young and a teenager (teens can be manipulative) …but as an  adult I didn’t hear her described that way at all.


18. When interviewing Jodi you claimed you did not asking leading questions. If someone asks a simple question that elicits a simple y/n response, would you consider that a leading question?     Gosh I’ve been asked a lot of y/n questions and I think they’re questions, I don’t think they’re leading questions. … I work very hard not to do that.


19. You say Travis has no indication of being stalked. He displays no fearful behavior and continues his contact with Jodi of his own accord. How do you reconcile Jodi’s claim of DV if she continues her contact with Travis of her own accord…where was her fearful behavior?      Domestic Violence and stalking… tend to be different. …Battered women go back and forth…you don’t see people leave and stay gone and their fear develops over a longer time.  Stalking- fear tends to develop in a shorter time…real stalking occurs when end of the relationship. And no more contact is desired. >>>


20. Do you consider someone who says: “no jury will ever convict me” to be a person with low self esteem?     It sounds like a really foolish statement to me…I don’t know what to say about self esteem but it doesn’t seem like a good statement to make…


21. How can you say that Jodi and Travis’ relationship was abuse with no proof other than name calling on paper and Jodi’s word?       It’s the degree of name calling and putting down, the level of escalation. And the words of his 2 closest friends, his relations with other women…so it’s not just from JA’s words>>>those kind of words I don’t think anyone would want their daughter called those kind of words>>>they would see it as abusive.


22. Do you handle cases where the female is the abuser?      Yes I do.


23. Did Travis discuss abuse of Jodi or any other women in his journal entries?      No, he didn’t.


24. In all the evidence you reviewed, was there any indication anywhere of Travis claiming stalking by anyone else other than Jodi?      No, I don’t believe so.


25. Of the times you have testified in other cases, how many of these were in def. of men?  Not just criminal, I’ve also worked in family law…of the 18 times I’ve testified that I have worked 3 or 4 and defense has a broader brush… referrals I’ve had men accused of beating their wife and children  and I’ve worked with the attorney and also intervention//  (//means Mr. Martinez objected and the Judge moved on to the next question)


26. What is the manifesto you referred to during your testimony?      I actually don’t know because I’ve never seen it.


27. Is there a type of stalking… that a person is comfortable around someone in person but are afraid of them or what they are capable of when they are not around?
There’s …when you look at abuse…and battering…when moving apart and coming back together – there’s disbelief the relationship is going to end. There might even be a protective order, they might meet again for dinner- very common. Still some back and forth, that’s not stalking. Once the stalker realizes you mean business…that’s when their behavior will escalate and get worse.


28. When speaking of blackmail and being threatened, are you aware that Jodi threatened Travis by saying she would let out that he was a pedophile?      I was not aware of that.   Does that mean anything to you?      Yes, of course it means something to me, yes.


29. You stated it would be beneficial for Jodi to write things she was lying about in her journal, to buck up her story. How would she write about these things if her story didn’t change until well after the killing hypothetically speaking?       If she had planned something …on being separate from Travis, it seems like she would use, she would be building up a story that would use all this. I don’t see a plan here to separate from Travis and build a self-defense case.


30.   Regarding the text from Travis to Jodi where he is upset about her BS story from Michelle or Elena, what exactly was the BS story that Jodi told Travis?       The ‘B.S. story’ the woman came into the restaurant and told Jodi that Travis was with Lisa…(which was true). Where did you get this info?   ….came from the communications.  What Jodi gave me and what Lisa wrote, so it wasn’t a B.S. Story.

You stated that Travis was the one lying in this message, how do you know this for sure?      Because I read the information from Lisa…so there was corroboration. How can you know that Jodi’s B.S. story was not a lie? (Not the subject but the actual story that was told.)      I can’t I don’t know the story that was told to Travis.


31. You seem to believe that when the argument began between Jodi and Travis prior to the Havasupai trip that he called her upstairs that he only wanted to pursue an argument. How do you know he didn’t want to get the issue resolved and calm her and may have been embarrassed in front of the Freemans?      I don’t know that and I didn’t use heavily in my assessment.


32. Can you explain how Ms. Arias can remember physical abuse incidents so vividly but does not write anything, not even a reference to her feelings, in her journal?      About the incidents? (Judge re-reads) I believe, well, there were different places she wrote references to her feelings…I can’t explain what somebody does…can’t explain what they don’t write down.


33. You testified writings could have supported her statements however, is it possible the incidents of abuse reported by Jodi were reported after the fact as a secondary gain to benefit her?     That’s possible, that’s possible. I didn’t rely just rely on her oral or verbal report.


34. Do you have any evidence other than Jodi’s word that Travis made her tear out pages and write only positive thoughts?     No I didn’t.


35. Who, from Jodi’s past did you interview that were able to rule out Jodi’s manipulative behavior being a pattern?      I wasn’t able to interview anyone from her past directly. I was given the interviews that were done at the beginning. There were at least reviewed 20 collaterals, more collateral sources in this case than any case I’ve worked on.


36. You told us that you like to meet with each individual before analyzing the relationship. We have heard Jodi’s side of the story. Can you tell us Travis’ side of the story?       Well, by law I can’t interview//  Travis’ family. I obviously can’t interview Mr. A. I had 7 hours of unedited footage regarding Mr. A. that people spoke very well of him…with friends and family. Looked at some of the things he did. He was kind and generous, he made people laugh and motivated people. I didn’t feel he was a one-dimensional human being. I feel that there were very good parts of Mr. A.>>>  Mr. A had some outstanding traits.


37.  You mentioned that stalking could fall under the abuse and battery columns in your continuum. If that is true why is stalking excluded from those columns? Actually because when I talk about that in training I call that normal stalking – neither party believes each other>>>pull back and forth…common for someone to get a protective order and the partner believes they can keep pushing…until actually enforces the P.O. that they change their mind…they know that they mean business. Is your continuum incomplete?  Why not list all the appropriate bullet points for the appropriate column?      Yes, my continuum is incomplete. It is. I’m messing with it all the time. (Goes on …dead sea scroll…framework…)


38. You stated that you have chosen not to take cases in the past because you did not believe an individual. Did you take this case, in part, because you believed Jodi?   Yes.     If you did not believe her would you have chosen to turn it down?      Yes.

If you start out believing in an individual doesn’t that, by default, set up  prejudices towards their partner?          No, because I’ve had cases where as I’ve pursued them I’ve found them not credible and I’ve talked to the attornies  …if I don’t find enough credible evidence I don’t testify>>>I don’t have a great retirement after 34 years //



39. You stated that regarding anger, it is more common for someone to have a burst of anger, then calm down. Is it possible that Travis’ rants seem longer because they are being viewed in text form?      Actually they go on over a period of 2-3 hours which is pretty long and then follow up with the other//  There were long rants, the longest to me was 2-3 hours- I Think it was the 5/26th, date not as important as the context, there was a follow-up>>> this went on for another, I think for 16 pages or something like that…it’s an extensive length of time.


40. Can you explain what you mean by a burst of anger? Can a 10 or 20 minute rant be described as a burst?      A 10-20 minute  could be described as a burst. What you look at (gives example of a case) is what’s in that burst.


41. If a couple has an argument that takes all day to end can they still be in a healthy relationship?      Yes, absolutely.   Would that type of argument indicate abuse?      It wouldn’t indicate abuse at all.


42.  Is it possible for 2 people to be abusive to each other?     Yes.


43. Don’t you believe that Travis making comments about a 12 year old girl while having a phone sex conversation with Jodi is fundamentally different than Travis allegedly masturbating to photos of young boys?      I think it’s different it’s just an unusual comment to make from a 30 year old man about a 12 year old girl.


44. Would you characterize your knowledge of June 4, 2008, as light or incomplete? I think some of the details of where something happened  I’m clearer on it now but I knew in general what happened. I was focused on what led up to June 4th and what happened June 4th.


45. Are you confused on any of the details of that afternoon?     Well I was, I said that  I believed that the shot was fired in the closet and it wasn’t. I think I know most of he detail.            some of the dates where something happened..I was focused on what led up to June 4th and what happened June 4th.


46. Do you think it is deceptive for someone to not share the most private and intimate details of their lives, like their sexual activities, with their friends and family or do you consider it normal to keep those things private?   I think most people keep the details of their sexual lives private.    If normal, why do you think Travis’ attempts to keep those things private is deceptive?      I don’t think him keeping his private life, his sexual life is deceptive. I think putting himself out as someone who obeys the Laws of Chastity and is a 30 year old virgin is deceptive.


47. Did you ever see evidence that Jodi was openly sharing all of her most private sexual details with her friends and family? No, I didn’t. Would you consider that deceptive? No, I don’t. She never claimed to be a virgin. Certainly she was part of the Mormon faith and not going along with the Laws of Chastity.


48. You say Jodi’s lies started after she killed Travis, how could you possibly know this?      I can only go on the reports of people in her life prior to that, once again primarily the 2 men that she spent most of her adult life with when in her 20’s  (Matt & Derryl) neither described her as a liar.


49. Do you believe that Jodi was subjected to sexual degradation at the hands of Travis?      I believe she participated in the relationship, went along with things >> wanted to be in that relationship and went further than she should.


50. You stated that you saw no signs of Travis being sexually degraded by Jodi. Noting his desire to see her in Ca., his actions on the sex call and various texts, i-m’s etc. Couldn’t that same argument be made regarding Jodi’s alleged sexual degradation given her desire to see Travis, her actions on the sex call, etc?     Yes, I’ve not heard Jodi say she was sexually degraded and humiliated…not heard her testimony…hasn’t made claims of that.


51. Considering only the written conversations and journals (excluding the interview with Jodi) did you see abuse?   Please explain.       I’m confused by that – I’m thinking it’s about  Jodi’s journals and 2 interviews, if I excluded  those things,  I would still see that as abuse.     What level would you place that abuse?    The   verbal abuse was in battering>>>  Definitely battery.


52. Considering only the journals, did you see an escalation?      Oh, yeah, I saw an escalation over time the rants longer, put-downs are worse. Him talking about his own anger being scary.


53.   You mentioned Travis was in a 7-year relationship with Deanna. Are you aware of anyone interviewing her to determine if she was a victim or survivor?      I don’t know of any interview with Deanna.   I didn’t see anything that indicated that she was a survivor of abuse.       Did you interview her?     No, I did not.


54. You keep saying that Jodi doesn’t match your definition of manipulative. Is it possible that your definition of manipulation differs from others?      Yes, yes it is. Is it possible that your definition is wrong?      Sure.


55. Yesterday you mentioned Jodi’s behavior towards her mother. Do you honestly believe that hitting and kicking your parents are normal behavior at any age?        No, I don’t believe I said it was normal teenage behavior. I said it was not appropriate teenage behavior. But it is behavior teenagers do. I don’t think it’s good behavior.

The summary for after these questions will follow.


Arias trial 4/11-morning session

Re-Direct- LaViolette/Willmott


  1. Sexual humiliation (Travis as the victim). The ‘dildo with a heartbeat’ comment is just one in a long tirade and AL doesn’t base her conclusions on just one comment. Sixteen days before that Travis had phone sex and said he wanted to visit her. May 2 he sent a text about a photo shoot fantasy and was very graphic. Therefore he wasn’t humiliated.
  2. Interview with JM was in Mesa and AL didn’t bring all the boxes of info with her from Ca. The ‘shot in closet’ was in her notes but she now claims JA did not tell her this. It was not “…a big factor in determining domestic violence. AL was not interested in details of the murder and said: “…I made a mistake.”
  3. Matt and Bianca were still dating when JA went to see her. It was ‘not a hostile, angry confrontation’ and JA didn’t call/contact her after that.
  4. The cut finger from cutting apples was a second hand story and was told when JA was still lying about the killing.
  5. JA was not clear about where the knife was and ‘couldn’t remember after the attack at all.’
  6. JA wasn’t jealous as she was pursuing Ryan and others on LDS Link-up.
  7. JW brings up the abuser gets fearful when their partner is trying to leave and this is the most dangerous time. Travis did say in his journal that her moving away would be better for both of them. There was nothing about Travis fearing JA in his journals.
  8. ‘Proof” he was a pedo:

–       Sent her boys underwear (and mentioned in a text).

–       She was clean shaven (waxed) as he preferred.

–       He though pigtails were hot.

–       Had her dress as a schoolgirl.

–       Comment on sex tape about the 12 year old girl.

–       He liked ‘porking the pot of a little girl’ (??)

–       She caught him masturbating to pics of little boys.

  1. JA was with Matt for 2 years and Derryl for 4. They remained friends. She was close to Derryl’s son. JW: “Ever see them accuse her of being a liar?’ AL “No.”

10. Regarding stalking and Travis being in fear: It was just one statement and AL doesn’t rely on just one statement.

11. Travis’ truthfulness:

-Lied about his virginity to the church.

-Portrayed self as a virgin.

-Priesthood holder who didn’t follow the laws of the church.

-Lied to friends and family (re-virgin).

-Dated Lisa and JA at the same time.

-Abusive men hide there abuse from work and family. (So many don’t believe the person really did these things).

-Abuser will be rage-full to those closest to them.

-He had a lot to lose in business and with the Hughes’.

-JA was the only one who knew of his secret life.

      12.  JA’s truthfulness:

              -Lies started after the killing.

              -Lied about being there, then 2 intruders.

      JW: “Do those define her…”AL: “No, they don’t. If (she) was a really goon liar she would have planned a really good lie and she didn’t.”


Afternoon session-Jury questions and answers-

This will take me until later tonight to compile. I will post as soon as I am done.


Arias Trial Summary 4/9

Martinez vs. LaViolette

  1. JM gets AL to admit that she based her opinion ‘in part’ on the 44 hrs of talking to JA and that she found her to be “believable.” AL says she did not rule out secondary gain as a motive for JA to lie but that she focused on Domestic Violence (DV).
  2. AL only spoke to one party (JA) and didn’t speak to Travis. JM points out that because she said: “communication is 90% non-verbal” that would mean her assessment is 45% wrong.  AL says: ”No.”
  3. AL admits JA lied after the killing but maintains she was not a liar before that. JM asks who she interviewed to confirm that (no one). JM asks if she ever talked to JA’s Dad. AL: “No.”
  4. Jury is sent out.  JM brings out JA’s Dad on tape saying: “…she’s never been honest with us since then and she was 14.” AL states that this was ‘not something she knew’ and that she wouldn’t use a sound bite as part of her assessment.
  5. Jury in. JM brings up that JA told her that the cuts on her hands right after the murder were from cutting apples. (WOW) Asked if she believed it she says: “I didn’t believe that,” then backtracks and says: “I don’t recall that I focused on that.” JM points out she never checked about this with any other source and mentions this is JA’s  FOURTH story about cutting her finger. Asked if that was a problem for her AL said: “I can’t answer yes or no.”
  6. AL has in her notes: “JA told Derryl she was taking a long trip to Mesa.” She also wrote on her notes: “I thought this was a last minute decision.” AL admits she wasn’t concerned about this after talking to JA and reading other evidence.
  7. JM gets AL to admit (after a long pause to think about the criminal cases she’s been on, and because it’s apparently been a while) she bases her opinions primarily on paperwork. (Not interviews).
  8. Apparently a Manager at ‘The Purple Plum’ called JA a manipulator in particular with men. But because no one said that about her at Casa Ramos AL says that is not a characteristic of JA’s. JM says she was manipulative with Ryan right after the murder. AL did say she could be manipulative at times but when JM then says:  Then it stands to reason she was manipulative 2 weeks earlier-the day of the murder.” She responds: “It doesn’t stand to reason.”
  9. JM gets in that a friend of JA’s from High School said she was not abused and she liked to play the victim. AL say’s that’s one person’s opinion.

10. JM asks if she thinks the Text she made up was used to ‘get a rise out of Mr. Alexander.’ She says it’s possible.

11. Apparently AL believes that making out with Ryan was to ‘make JA feel normal.’

12. AL admits she didn’t ask JA certain questions because she was ‘old fashioned.’ She points out she did listen to the sex tape. JM brings out the Tape recording of his interview with her where she says she didn’t ask who initiated the anal sex (with Matt or Bobby) because she’s ‘old fashioned.’


Afternoon Session

  1. Jury is out. Hearing on the recording of JA’s Dad and Det. Flores. JM asks if knowing about her lying to her parents changes her opinion. AL: “No it doesn’t.” JM says AL’s work on this case is ‘shoddy’ and her opinion ‘flawed.’ JA saw herself as the victim. The Judge rules the state may ask if her opinion is altered by this evidence.
  2. Jury in. JM asks AL if it’s a problem re: JA’s truthfulness. AL: “Correct.” JM says she was playing the victim even though she wasn’t abused <Sidebar> as a teen. AL thought she was younger.
  3. Because AL is old fashioned she didn’t really go into questions about the anal sex- JM asks about who initiated it. She doesn’t know, just that it was uncomfortable. AL says it’s not relevant. JM points out that if it doesn’t feel relevant to her than it’s not relevant?
  4. In her interview with JM, AL misspoke and said Travis requested that it be recorded. They get off on a tangent about how she had this interview in November and then she looked at more data later. JM had a problem with this as she had already come to her conclusion in November that JA was a victim of DV. Back to the sex tape. They argue over whether it’s better to actually hear Travis than just read his texts. AL says: “No.” They fight over secondary gain. When faking the orgasms comes up she drops “Have you seen When Harry Met Sally?” JM points out there is no real way to know if they were faking. JM goes back to how she just jumped to the conclusion that Travis requested the recording showing her bias again. (my feed is cutting out)
  5. Regarding the first sexual contact; oral- JA told AL she was uncomfortable. JM says she seemed comfortable on the tape. AL points out it was 7 months later.
  6. JM says JA has nothing negative in her journals partly due to the Law of Attraction. AL says there are some negatives. JM clarifies there is nothing about any physical abuse. AL agrees. He says : “Nothing about Mr. Alexander ever laying a finger on her-correct?” AL: “Correct.” JM “Nothing about masturbating to pictures of boys?” AL “No.” JM: “But you still believe the defendant?” AL: “Based on other things…”
  7. JM asks about when Travis supposedly hit her the day she was leaving. AL admits she took JA’s word for it. JM goes into Dan Freeman’s testimony where he had a conversation with Travis about how he wanted her to leave and told her to leave. AL says it’s important but there’s no evidence and JM says: “Assume he came into court and said it.” AL admits that if that’s true it would have been important to her but it doesn’t mean there was no DV.
  8. JM goes into the fight before the trip to Havasu (sp) and Alyce does not know who started it. JM compares the journal entry which says the trip ‘didn’t start out very well’ to what Dan Freeman testified to. AL admits (after arguing) she took the journal entry as truthful. JM goes through Freeman’s testimony point by point saying “assume that” after several points proving JA’s journal entry is at the very least, incomplete. It takes a while but AL finally concedes the entry is incomplete.
  9. Regarding AL’s contention that JA has never been jealous. JM gets AL to agree (after arguing again) JA may have left her jealousy out of her journal because it was negative.

10. JM goes through what he refers to as a pattern of jealous behavior with JA’s previous boyfriends- from the phone calls to the leaving food at the door to going to see Bobby on weekends (even though he moved to Oregon) and sleeping in his bed uninvited. AL says she just has a hard time letting go. AL does admit it ‘could be the beginning of a pattern.’ JM brings up her confronting Bianca. AL says they just ‘had a talk’ and that this is not controlling or jealousy.

11. JM brings out an exhibit (I believe the ‘continuum’ she made up). He says that it’s not a pattern of jealousy but it IS A PATTERN OF STALKING!

12. JM mentions the text where Travis says he is ‘exceedingly afraid of her stalking behavior.”

Alyce in Jodi-land

Points made by the prosecution:

1.  After spending an hour building up AL’s (Alyce LaViolette’s) credentials JM (Juan Martinez) tore them down in minutes. Under cross she became an out-dated (no formal education in more than 3 decades), out of touch (she now lectures about Snow White being battered), under-qualified (because she has no PhD she cannot administer or score tests and is not qualified to diagnose anyone) joke.

2.  AL based her opinions on a 44 hour interview with JA (Jodi Arias) and her Journals. She never spoke to anyone else (just read some other things and watched the 48hrs interview). JM pointed out that despite being paid $250 and hour to read JA’s journals she could not come up with a direct answer without wanting to refer to said journals. He simply asked her if there was anything negative in the Journals about JA and she requested that he show her the journals. She had no problem with questions about the journals with the defense because she was reading directly from them as spoon fed by the defense attorney. In fact the judge actually busted her for reading from the journals directly. Not to mention these journals are just like “Snow White”: fairy tales and this is basically what this expert regurgitated on the stand for 6 days.

3. JM got AL to admit the ‘continuum’ she based her ‘expert’ opinions on was made up BY HER! She even admitted to him that she could alter it at will. When asked if there was any diagnosis for “battered Women’s Syndrome” in the DSM (the ‘Bible” of psychological disease according to the last defense witness) she admitted there is no such thing. (Oh, and if there was she is not a Doctor and not qualified to diagnose anyone).

5. Remember when AL went into great detail to point out that because Travis had come from an abusive family that he would grow up to be an abuser? (And according to her everyone else in that circumstance would unless they received some kind of therapy). Well here is how JM used the Fairy Tale “Snow White” to prove the exact same point about JA:

     -Snow White was abused by her Step-Mom and her Dad did nothing to protect her. JA was abused by both her Mom and Dad and neither protected her.

     -Snow White fled into the woods to get away from the abuse. JA fled to Bobby’s house to get away from her parent’s abuse and control.

     -Snow White ended up in a shack taking care of people. JA moved into one room of a hoarder’s house and she was the only one working and bring the food in.

     -Something bad happened to Snow White (the apple). Something bad happened to JA (Bobby choked her).

 -Snow White becomes unconscious and waits for her Prince. JA starts looking for her Prince. Unfortunately I think her Prince was Travis.

-Doesn’t this then mean JA would grow up to be the abuser according to this expert?

**Mr. Martinez accomplished all this in about 30 minutes.

IMHO: In this version of Snow White the witch was Jodi and the apple she lured Travis with was SEX!