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Who’s In The Jury?

I was going to try to cull this info from the ‘Websleuths’ site but another site not only beat me to it, she also included other sources and their information on the jurors. Thank you Tamara Tattles! A fantastic summarization of the brave souls taking on this case. I wanted to share the link with my readers so here you go:

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/13/jodi-arias-trial-juror-descriptions/

Nurmi’s closing- Do I Really Have To?

Would you forgive me if I forgo this very unpleasant task? Suffice it to say he implied the ‘on a mission’ theory was ridiculous and Travis was a horrible person. I just can’t bring myself to type all those despicable (and ridiculous) accusations against the victim in this case. Can’t do it. I would much rather you get a little comic relief and read what my favorite blogger (Thanks, Eggy!) on this trial wrote about Nurmi’s closing at:

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/

Thanks.

Juan Martinez’s Closing Argument- Parts 1-2-3 Together

  1. This is a not a transcript I have paraphrased. It is much better to watch as the dripping sarcasm and tone of Mr. Martinez’s voice are important.
    1. Main themes: JA is a manipulator, a liar and nothing is her fault.
    2. This individual killed Travis and even after stabbing him over and over and slashing his throat and even after shooting him she will not let him rest in peace. Now she uses lies.
    3. She looked at the jurors and lied directly to them (re: gas cans).
    4. Relationships- She manipulates the facts. She moved in with Bobby (who cheated) and I was so good (sarcasm) and lived in a trailer (never mind I was skipping school). She hits the backspace button to read his private e-mails (not her fault there isn’t better security on the computers in the library) just as she did with Travis. She immediately went to Bobby and confronted him.
    5. She staged the scene for the police.
    6. She uses the media, craves the limelight. She autographed her manifesto for when famous. Said: ‘No jury will convict me.’ Now let’s bask in the light of the truth. See who she really is. A manipulator. She wants to play the victim even though there’s no abuse. Her own e-mail said she was destructive.
    7. After Bobby she got with Matt. It’s not her fault she’s a good worker, a waitress and someone comes in and tells her things (what she wants you to believe just like with the Travis’ story, it repeats because she’s lying. She’s trying to manipulate you.
    8. Derryl- not her fault he doesn’t want to marry or have more kids. How can it be her fault that people have free will? She looks for someone else. Those Mormon boys are a good catch- family values, successful and to Travis’s misfortune he was that boy. Wanted a Mormon, a child- perfect catch.
    9. He (Travis) was so sexually interested in her (not her fault the word ‘No’ is not in her lexicon). She was thinking ‘No’- at least that’s what she told you. Never communicated to him. Manipulates and pretends to be the victim. She can’t point the finger enough that Travis was a bad Mormon. Why not leave if he is so bad? You are Mormon too.

    10. She converted and had classes/met with missionaries. Not her fault they didn’t tell her (Law of Chastity). Travis is the bad guy- he said it was ok. In conceivable- she’s in the same situation. She wants your sympathy.

    11. This relationship was long distance. She couldn’t reach out and shot him in the face. She stalked him and showed up unannounced.

    12. They weren’t mutually exclusive so it’s ok to send texts to other women. But it’s ok after his Memorial to talk to a guy on the airplane and get a phone number. After all, the guy she was with up and died after she stabbed, slit throat and shot him.

    13. Travis did see her and have sex. They are trying to shock you. He does what others do behind closed doors and he doesn’t want people to know.

    14. On Feb. 14 she talks about her violent tendencies. One of the things she doesn’t talk about is receiving the package. It’s 4:30 – 5 pm (if mail is slow in Palm Desert) and there’s no mention of Spiderman underwear, no ‘Thank you’ for the chocolates, no such delivery. It can’t be verified- but she will make things up. She forgot about the e-mail. With the truth you don’t have to remember nothing.’ She can’t show the undies…she threw them away.

    15. When she came over in Feb. she was ‘happy.’ Why did she have to go through his computer and hit ‘back-space?’ It’s not her fault, it’s his fault he has contact with men and women and how dare he attempt to spend New Year’s Eve with someone- he should be in a hut somewhere.

    16. They are on vacation. She goes through his phone. One of the things she liked about him was he was social. There’s no names of anyone having sexual contact with him at that time. So that justified it, this person with borderline- so that’s it. We’re gonna break up (and she’s oozing through those fake tears on the stand) – yeah, I’m really hurt but let’s go on vacation anyway. She wants to curb his free will. But she’s not letting him go that easy. She moves close to him after the break-up. The stalking begins. Well, before she did the phone and the computer the first day they were officially boyfriend – girlfriend. There was stalking behavior from the beginning.

    17. She’s in Mesa. Why is she here? He’s so persuasive he talked her into it. She just can’t say ‘No.’ According to her he asked her. When here rather than dating and being social she begins to be more attentive, perhaps then she’ll be the only one.

    18. August 2007 she goes to his house unannounced. Peeps in the windows. By the light of the TV (now the light of truth) she sees them kissing. That is the end of the world. So what? He’s entitled to do it. The lights are off and he’s moved on. She could’ve left or never come in the first place. She’s so upset- sees the bra unhooked…so what is she? The Mormon conscious? She wants to manipulate your perception. Ruin his reputation. She comes back the next day (they are broken up) it’s ok to peep but she wants an explanation. What explanation did he ever owe her at that point?

    19. The first domestic violence (DV) event she didn’t write because she’s a nice person. Or the Law of Attraction. You lie. It’s ok to lie to your journal- you’re lying to yourself. She’s making it up. There’s no corroboration of any incident.

    20. Exploitive sex. She regaled us with these intimate details but she’s ‘uncomfortable?’ In the texts she’s the one requesting the sexual acts. ‘If you’re good…’ They were both in it. He never forced her to do anything. It’s an attempt to manipulate you.

    21. The physical violence ‘wasn’t so bad’ so she didn’t write. No one knows, sees, no police calls – had a similar situation with Bobby and after calling 911 they didn’t come out. Justification. No 911 calls. Because it never happened. Everything in this case points to it did not happen. No medical records.

    22. March 2008 she’s leaving and he hits her. In journal he ‘didn’t want me to leave’ and ‘gave me 3 tender kisses.’ Kissing is domestic violence. Then an apologist like Alyce LaViolette says: ’those words don’t mean what they say.’ Law of Attraction- it means just the opposite.

    23. Jan. 22- DV – no corroboration. Says in journal ‘nothing noteworthy has happened.’ You are being asked to make a leap.

    24. April 2008 another DV incident. She doesn’t tell anyone. She was very specific as to 4 of them. If telling the truth you don’t need to remember nothing. ’She told Dr. Karp there were 10, 15, 20 incidents of DV at that point for PTSD. What’s true? None of it is true. She’s manipulating the evidence. Karp said she had PTSD based on these DV acts. Not actually an attempt to manipulate- they are lies!

    25. She moves and it’s like a ray of sunshine for Travis. When she was here she came over unannounced, broke into accounts and hid behind his Christmas tree.

    26. May 10th– the sex tape. It’s very important to hear how she deals with him. He doesn’t know he’s being recorded. He can’t listen to it so what’s the benefit? Yes, he said some things, it was a private conversation between he and her even though they were broken up and she had stalked. He enjoys the sexual contact. She introduced him to certain things and opened his eyes sexually. What’s wrong is one is recording it. You can listen, draw your own conclusions. She kept it.

    27. May 19 2008 Travis i-m’s Regan that he’s ‘extremely afraid of Jodi because of her stalking behavior. He has less than a month to live. He knows what’s going on between them. Alyce said it wasn’t true. She can read minds from the past and know what Travis is thinking. No- Jodi is manipulating. It says: ‘Jodi-read this.’

    28. It was pre-meditated-who would know better than him? The peeping, tires, ring stolen, Christmas tree.

    29. May 26. Well, he’s mean to her. That’s correct- he’s extremely afraid when those names are called. ‘I’m nothing more than a dildo with a heartbeat’ that’s how she made him feel. He feels derogatory to himself. She manipulates with sex. May 26 he tells her. She apologizes to him and all is supposed to be forgiven. He’s had enough. “I don’t want your apology, I want you to understand what I think of you. He’s afraid and he does think she’s evil. And look at the next words- how prophetic: ‘You are the worst thing that has ever happened to me.’ Any doubt that’s the truth? Do we need to look at pictures of his slashed throat? His frog-like crumpled up state in the shower- bullet in the temple? Yes he’s angry over everything she’s done to him. Like she‘s manipulated you with the gas cans- she lied. Then he says ‘you are a sociopath’ that expresses his feelings. ‘You only cry for yourself- you saw her cry on the witness stand. She never expected to get caught!  ‘You have never cared about me…you have betrayed me.’ He believes she has done something horrific. He’s done with her. ‘You’re sick and you have scammed me.’ Are you going to allow her to scam you- buy the lies?

    30. May 28 (2 short days after) there’s a plan. No doubt she’s intelligent. She could buy a gun but in California there’s a waiting period. She indicated it. Knows her grandfather has guns. Begins the actual steps to Mesa to kill Travis. There’s no other explanation- she stole it, a very small gun ‘looks like a toy.’ The burglary was strange- they went through four rooms talking one thing from each room. Didn’t take money, left the large guns – rifle. Burglars don’t do that. The burglar is Jodi Arias sitting right there (points) and she needs a gun that can’t be traced. She began to take these steps after the text where he had had enough of her.

    31. Money is tight, she needs to use credit cards. People can’t link her to Arizona. She calls Derryl. He still has feelings for her. He gulped before talking about the call where she says she’s going to Mesa. Alyce has the same in her notes. She needed gas cans. Alyce thought it was supposed to be an unplanned visit.

    32. Utah- Ryan…no one will know she was in Arizona. Gets 2 gas cans from Derryl. Rents a car from 90 miles away. Says Priceline didn’t offer same deal in Yreka. Her bank statement says she used Budget. She used Priceline for the flight to Travis’ Memorial. She lied to you. People won’t recognize her in Redding. Won’t be recognized at an airport. Gets a nice little red car. Says she’s just driving ‘around town.’ Red gets the attention of police and we certainly don’t want that. She’s on a mission to kill somebody. Why would you take a gun if not to kill this guy?

    33. They have sex down in the office. She scratched the CD- he throws it. He gets mad at everything! Why take these CD’s? To show who- other than him? She planned it- it’s a good way/excuse to show up…’the only reason I dropped by…’ She left Yreka with the CD’s but forgot when attempting to manipulate from the stand. She had to take those CD’s from her house then put in her car then in rental.

    34. The red car- police will see her. She was stopped by police in West Jordan. Wants to hide she’s going to Mesa because she’s going to kill him. Nobody would be upset if she showed up in Mesa…not the Bishop, not her family. Only reason is to kill. She makes preparations…you gotta tip your hat to her. The white car- gonna drive around…a field of lies sprouted around her on the witness stand.

    35. Spends a night at Matts, then Derryls. Got gas cans. Gas cheaper in Utah, Arizona- that was one of her reasons…so why fill them in Pasadena? For taking the drive to Mesa with no evidence she was here.

    36. Takes a detour- with some afterthought. A meticulous approach to killing. Buys a gas can in Walmart. Admits it. $12.96…I guess that’s the price of pre-meditation today. She is very specific: “I took it back to the same store that day.” JM: “Would it surprise you there’s no record of a return?” JA: “Yes it would, I got money back.” Why did she you tell you that? It’s pre-meditated…going to Mesa with a gun and knife. Knives are not in the bathroom.

    37. She doesn’t want to be recognized. (He puts up pic of her with dog, her hair has blond streaks). You don’t need anybody to tell you her hair color believe your eyes. She’s pre-meditating the murder. The state doesn’t even need to prove a whole plan like this, just that she thought about it. Now she can freely drive through Mesa.

    38. ‘Mr. Alexander guilted me into coming.’ Not her fault. She told him she was going to Utah. Problem is her word. Do we really know what he told her on that call? Or did she call to see who’s there and what he’s doing? Did he even know she was coming? Are you gonna take her word- she has no problem telling lies. ‘Yeah I was fakin’ it’…Squealing like a cat…’because I need 2 hands.’

    39. She lies outside the courtroom and on the witness stand.  She looked each one of you in the eyes and lied to you. Gas cans, Priceline, the finger- he kicked me (but no medical).  Cut at Casa Ramos or Margaritaville on a metal edge or a glass, or June 4th at Travis’ on a glass. What story are you gonna believe?

    40. Something bizarre and coincidental – a hoard of skateboarders that carry screwdrivers (or you’re not allowed in the club). Get a Strawberry Frappe and things will happen to your plate. ‘I was pulling put and saw something flat on the ground. What would motivate you to go pick it up if you’re concerned with safety and you don’t know what it is? She didn’t even look at the back plate. Then it was a rectangle. No suspicion it’s for your car- why get outside of car and go back? When you’re lying – that’s when you do that. She didn’t compare the numbers, she takes it so now you’re a thief. In Utah one is upside down. So she can’t be identified. Can’t see because I need glasses, picks it up with bugs on it…thought it was mine. Who does that? No one does that! Because she got stopped and has to explain, so she made up a story.

    41. Fills cans in Pasadena to get enough gas to get through Arizona. She said she stopped for gas. There is no evidence of it. She turned off the phone so she can’t be traced. Lost the charger…bought one at a store (that’s what she told Ryan) when cleaning up (from killing Travis) she found the charger under the seat. There is no electronic or physical  trail of her being here. She knows she was coming to kill him. No need to stop the phone, she loves the phone. Has a white car, gun and a knife.

    42. She shows up to see him. She admitted she lied like that’s good. She knows the code 0187. She didn’t knock on the front door or peep in the back window. There’s no indication he came to the door.  It’s 4 am. Remember she said ‘I came in and stood by the door and watched him for 30-45 seconds.’ Who does that? Some stalker- unannounced- to surprise. The dog barks. ‘Hello.’ Brings purse in- big enough for gun and knife. They go to sleep. No sex? The sex fiend? ‘I was tired.’ She said no and he abided. They slept. The next day they have sex. Dr. Samuels says the photos were taken when she was straddling him. She tells him Travis had pictures of all these breasts on his computer.

    43. He didn’t go to Yreka, she drove there. The camera- Thank God for the camera! Religious overtones. It’s all about him nothing about her. About the Mormon faith- she wants to manipulate you. He’s holding himself out as a virgin. With Deanna they transgressed and went to the Bishop and never did it again. The willing partner is right here…1 hand or 2 hands…she enjoyed it. (Shows pic of her naked on bed) Her face- can you tell by her grimacing face if that’s a bad face? The psych’s said that. It’s all about Travis. She never wanted to do it- it was all him. She was enjoying it so stop pointing a finger at him! Being a Mormon isn’t being a human? The finger points at both. That’s not what this case is about. Travis adopted what she provided (KY) what she introduced.

    44. Shower pics- she says Travis wanted to show off his body.  She told Detective Flores that he really didn’t want to, he was reluctant. She told him she loved the way he shaved- old fashioned. She got him into the shower- it was more her idea than his. Think back to Derryl- he was asked if she ever took photos of him and he said only once, ‘I didn’t want them, I was in the shower.’ She takes photos…sexy…ill will there. Armed with both the knife and gun at that point. It’s ‘Calvin Klein’ the water dripping…it’s bucolic. That’s not what’s going on.

    45. The rope. 20’ long tied to the bed. Depends on who whether tied at wrists or ankles and wrists. She’s making it up to justify the knife there. Why ankles? Then wrists and ankles? She changes positions- she has a lot to remember. There’s NO ROPE! She would’ve had to move to clean up the bedroom, wet with water and blood and go into bedroom and leave a trail. Nothing’s there.

    46. The last photo of Travis (seated in shower) while still living. Quite a legacy. Defenseless- no gun, no knife. No dignity either. If anybody’s defenseless it isn’t Jodi Arias. His killer standing there dressed with a camera. Part of this story of hers is this is an accidental photo but look at the acuity/sharpness. She held camera firmly and pushed the button. She has him in that position, she can approach him. It’s her with the man she just had sex with and planned to kill May 28. Although pre-meditation requires thinking, not a plan, not days. It’s cold, without feeling pre-meditation, intimate with and attacks. Shot to head? Forensics say otherwise.

    47. She lied to the police, the experts and here. Now we believe her with this one aspect? The cuts (knife) were in front, defensive wounds. He was alive. A knife wound to the heart, he’s not dying immediately, blood’s coming from his mouth. In a sense she’s already killed him. We know he gets up because throughout the bathroom everywhere there’s blood- that equals movement. Not ‘flopping if the fish’ but purposeful movement to save his life. As this time goes by there’s pre-meditation. After the first stab wounds he ambulates (she didn’t carry him to the sink) he goes there by himself. (Photo of the blood on the sink). The sink with his blood after he’s been stabbed. There’s patterns on this photo, injuries to the hands, more on the left…the smudge. Slight injury to right hand. He’s still alive but he’s still bleeding. There’s drops by gravity. Blood in his mouth. He’s stabbed in the back while there (pics) and the back of the head as he stands at the sink. Took time…he stood there. The defendant was there with the knife stabbing him. The mirror has blood spatter. Force was applied to his head (pic) when he was standing there- spatter on the mirror. He’s not dead. Still standing there. She came to visit him. (Pic) Blood transfer…the item with blood was Mr. Alexander. It’s a rainbow. Ironic, no good luck at the end of that rainbow.

    48. He’s stumbling with somebody after him. He’s trying to get away from her. (Juan sees JA crying) Oh, she may cry now on instructions sympathy is not to be considered. Blood on the other wall, more at the bottom. She chases him down, that’s what she did. He’s still alive. How many stab wounds? Do we need to count? One to the chest will kill him. The back of the head, his back, accelerating his departure from earth. The end of his rainbow. That’s what she does (pic) slits his throat from ear to ear. He got there by his own movements as he tried to get away from her. He collapses. She goes for the throat. And you want to believe she doesn’t remember now? Why is she so directed if it’s just heat of passion? You wouldn’t have a directed hit to kill it would be all over the place. Indication of thinking. I caught him and now (pic). This was a well-orchestrated killing and it took time. People think…now stabbed, he tried to get away, at the sink, the mirror is reflective of what’s behind him. He’s seeing her stabbing him. She’s not done with him yet.

    Part 3-1. The shot took place near the sink. The knife wounds had to be first. No blood in the wound track. The heart wasn’t beating.

  2. More direct indicators (pic of end of hall with lots of footprints in blood). Looks like a wildebeast migration. How many times was she stomping around that? But there’s nothing in the bedroom. She’s cognizant. It would have been all over the bedroom. She begins to drag him. An attempt to clean up. A head shot, no blood, heart not pumping, he is dead. The casing from the 25 caliber gun from the staged burglary falls on top of blood. Dragging him, pulling him along, head exposed, casing expelled onto blood already there. So she’s killed him three times over. Is that enough pre-meditation? A very directed attack.
  3. The clean up. An interesting thing- the camera-she deletes photos, looks at photos. Assume the sex photos were already deleted. 162 inadvertent photos deleted after death (*I think I got that wrong…seems extreme!). During the attack he couldn’t care less about the camera. She carried it to that location.
  4. After she shoots him he’s put back in the shower. She’s still thinking: ‘I’ve got to get rid of the evidence.’ She deleted only certain pictures. She deleted only certain pics- not the ones of the dog, only the ones that hurt her . That’s directed behavior. Not dis-associative amnesia. Even San Francisco fog wouldn’t be so cloudy to account for this kind of behavior. Takes the camera from that area (and important- found in washer). There are NO STEPS  (in blood) leading from the bedroom to the washer. So she cleaned herself up. Items worn were taken off. Could have taken with her. The glass under the sink…she cleaned him up. Washed away any contact to show her being there. DNA all washed away. We don’t know if she turned on the shower. It isn’t because she loved him or wanted him to look good. He’s all crumpled up there. Destroyed the DNA.
  5. She’s focused (on cleaning) the bedroom area near the closet. Maybe she dropped the knife there. Her knife had been dripping blood. She carried it out. If she carried it to the dishwasher it had to have been cleaned up upstairs or wrapped in something so there would be no blood on the stairs. She cleaned it, maybe put in her purse. Thinking the whole thing through- staging the scene. The gun is taken, footwear was not found. Even towels- one was missing from the set- were in the washer and the cycle run. She used Clorox. The hands were clean when the Clorox was grabbed. She had already cleaned up so she wouldn’t get caught. It requires a space of time. And killing someone three times over requires time, regardless of what happened first. The heart, the throat, the gunshot- all fatal. A staged scene.
  6. Equally demonstrative of how she was thinking- license plate upside down (and stopped in Utah), packed up bloody clothes, she moved or took the camera, purse, gun. She was careful there was nothing anywhere but the bathroom.
  7. She got in the car and left Napoleon behind. She comes up with gas. If in a fog how do you remember you have gas cans? Not something she does on a regular basis. She calls Ryan and lies about where she’s been. He could potentially say she was with him. She’s still staging the scene. If she didn’t kill him why call and leave him a message? She’s thinking. The message- there’s no fog, she’s not mumbling on the recording. She tried several messages. Why? Why not call police? Why continue on her journey and try to make it seem normal? Because she had it planned. Ryan = alibi, and she has some romantic interest. Gosh, you can almost hear the violins, their first kiss, and a more passionate kiss.  ‘He’s full of crap’ –anyone who doesn’t agree with her. They were involved in a sexual fashion- he has nothing to gain from lying.
  8. Leslie- she talks an=bout her and Travis’s kids in the future. Staging the scene. Well she didn’t know he was dead.
  9. Injury to her hand was from the knife slipping.

10. Dan Freeman- calls when the body is found. She’s crying and calls the Bishop to see if he’s alive. Creating a wall, no one can say she has anything to do with this. Lies to everybody. Staging the scene. A staged defense by lies.

11. In court with you that would bring out the truth? She lies to you – the gas cans- absolutely without a shadow of a doubt she’s a liar. Walmart and Salt Lake gas receipts also go to pre-med. No direct evidence- circumstantial. Evidence she appeared to direct- seeing, hearing. (He goes into the story about circumstantial evidence being like seeing footprints in the sand and knowing someone’s been there). There are many footprints here: ‘The worst thing’, stolen gun, gas cans. Lying, license, phone off, photos, the rest of the evidence. She pre-meditated the murder. The car in Redding paid directly to Budget. The finger injury- she showed it to you. When asked: ‘Well you really didn’t get any injuries’ she said ‘Well I also got the injury to my finger, then turns and says: ‘No, no no, Casa Ramos/Margaritaville/house. Looked you in the face and lied to you.

12. The Law of Attraction, all the experts. ‘No jury will convict her.’ Elizabeth Barrett Browning: ‘How do I love thee? Let me count the lies.’

13. Alyce with her Master’s and large CV- is also a liar. Said she testified on behalf of a male 1-2 times. When pressed she had no name. then ‘Well I didn’t testify.’ Keynote speaker? Snow White? She wasn’t. Tried to justify her lies to you so they wouldn’t look so bad. ‘White lies are ok’ – if it’s to her benefit. She wasn’t truthful to you- looked at you and lied. She’s an advocate lying on behalf of Jodi Arias…44 hours with her, sending books, visiting her. It’s contaminated; foul –she lied to you.

14. Dr. Samuels scoring and rescoring- why rescore? There’s no reason to rescore 3 times unless you want to change the scores. The PDS test- there is no doubt she lied on #14.  Tiger, Bear, Gopher- it doesn’t matter the bottom line is it’s a lie. If you went to the Dr. and lied about your pain is the treatment any good? She suffered trauma…which trauma? The trauma of lying about the killing of Travis or the trauma of non-existent DV? Keep in mind the PTSD was based on many DV events, yet only 4 examples to you were never linked to PTSD. And Dr. Samuels said he probably should have re-administered.

15. A litany of lies. It’s important how it fits in. Told the police exaggerations, and then minimized. Dr. Geffner says exaggeration really isn’t a lie- IT IS, because it’s not telling the truth.

16. July 15th she’s arrested – over one month (since the killing). She had time to think about it. She had a story ready. She had such a strong will; she would not budge. Det: ‘You were there.’ JA: ‘NO, I wasn’t there.’ The palm print in blood- well of course it’s there. She’s adaptable and nimble when in a situation. She’s quick thinking- designed to manipulate. Says whatever fits the story. She denied everything and wanted to see photos to conform her story to what the police knew. She asks to see the photos. Previously when showing them she was crying- for your sympathy- as she sits there with a red nose, face down apparently crying. July 16 (next day) she changes it and makes herself the hero- pushing the woman down, the gun to her head. ‘I wish I could’ve stayed there; fought.’ Manipulating the story. Now, years later she ‘s truthful? Non-stop lies- to you, the health care professionals, police and media. On TV she’s such a calm person. She’s a chameleon and will adjust to the situation. Friends- she lies to them- Leslie re: ‘When we have kids…’ What could you possibly gain from that? She goes further (than needs to)with her lies.

17. Freeman calls her then she goes to the Bishop. She adds the extras to really sell it. All of those days testifying to you. Her defense based on lies. For self defense she added ornate lies about physical violence. Goes into great detail about it, banging his head against the wall and she’s the calm one. A very good liar. A sophisticated liar. The acts of DV. Look at the journals- no acts of DV. Any reason other than the Law of Attraction and Alyce? Any reason to doubt what’s written there? Friends never saw it, no police, no medical. Monumental lies made up as fits her defense.

18. Then created a lie- a hot button topic. How horrific is it to be accused falsely of being a pedophile? (Alyce…). On the computers there’s no images anywhere. How absolutely hateful that allegation is. But she went a little too far. The journal- no event. No texts. What human doesn’t go to the police? Phone calls back and forth that don’t match. The new approach to pedophilia- let’s jump in the sack. If true the journal wouldn’t have said ‘Nothing noteworthy happened. Nothing in computer, anywhere in the house. The only thing he has left: his reputation. A hateful allegation with nothing to support it. What goes through you’re head when you hear that the first time? (He’s a horrible person). The pinnacle.

19. (*At this point Martinez compares the evidence with the juror instructions).

20. Credibility of witness: directly relates to pedophile and DV. What testimony to accept/reject. This person here’s the epitome of a liar.  How can you know when she’s telling the truth about anything? 18 days on the stand wasted. See her in the light of day. She’ll look each and every one of you in the eye and lie to you. Would you go to a Dr. who lies to you?

21. She was there. She knows. Her memory is incredible. Unless it hurts her…then the fog rolls in.

22. Manner while testifying. She attempts to cry. Gets angry. Snaps out and tries to make the person asking the questions to blame. ‘You’re scrambling my brain.’ Not my fault I keep lying. It’s your fault. I can snap at you and smirk at you from the witness stand.

23. Motive to lie. This defendant has some motive. Alyce- for her reputation? With Ryan – why lie? He lives in Utah and only met her once. Amanda- why make things up? The only person with a motive is Jodi Arias. She wrote before the trial, wrote they didn’t happen, didn’t tell anyone.  Pedophile- nothing supports what she said.

24. In order for her to prevail it actually comes down to whether or not you believe her. All of the other evidence contradicts her. You’d have to turn your back on all the other evidence.

25. Burden of proof. You must be ‘firmly convinced.’ Absolute certainty not required. You don’t need to overcome every doubt.  A procedure you indicated you would follow.

26. Inquiry. Once found guilty that’s the end of the inquiry. You don’t need to got any further.

27. There is only one charge in this case. Pre-me / felony murder. If you vote and it is split (like 9 for pre-med and 3 for felony) it is still 1st degree murder.

28. Cause of death is proven. Knew she would cause death- slit throat, stabbed heart and shot. Killed 3 ways. Intended to kill/knew she would kill- 3 different ways.

29. After knowing she would kill him she reflected on the decision. Regardless of the length of time it’s 1st degree. Stabbed in the shower than after minutes chasing him down and slashing his throat. Shot in head also indicates she wanted him to die. This was a long period of time for Mr. Alexander to go through. From the shower, stumbling, trying to get away.

30. If she didn’t bring the gun then you have a burglary. She didn’t have his permission. If somebody dies when taking a gun it’s 1st degree.

31. Heat of passion- look at the photos. Not the instant affect of passion. (Pic) Look like he’s ready to fight? And who’s telling you? A liar. The gun is with her.

32. On June 10th she called this police officer (indicates Flores) and said Travis never had a gun…just fists. No doubt that she said it. At that time she didn’t know how important that was going to be. She did bring it- burglary at Grandpa’s. Heat of passion? She called the police and lied. I’m now going to decide to believe her? That the father gave it to him? And told Alyce it happened in the closet. There’s no bullets or cleaning supplies. Nothing to indicate he had a gun.

33. The shelves. She stepped on the second shelf. They move down with pressure. You saw the photos. There’s no activity there. Everything, her statement says there’s no heat of passion- she brought the gun. Told the police he didn’t have a gun.

34. Her first story she was ‘afraid.’ Second story- she didn’t want to get into trouble. Her first call to police she wanted to know what police knew. She didn’t know her story yet. And you’d have to disregard the 25 caliber gun from Grampa’s.

35. The circuitous route through the closet. She could have ran out. He was naked and wouldn’t have chased her outside.

36. What are you going to do with an unloaded gun? Throw it at him? It’s an absolute lie.

37. The lesser included we won’t discuss.

38. Felony murder. Attempt/burglary. To remain unlawfully. We don’t know if she was invited in. And being stabbed to death- if I was being stabbed to death I would no longer want you in my house. The consent to come in isn’t there. Furthering this is she took his gun. Even if it wasn’t her fault she caused the death and took his gun. So murder 1st degree under both.

39. These instructions are mandatory.

40. Keep in mind she attempted to manipulate you. (pic) This is what she wants you to think (*I’m guessing a ‘happy’ pic). But the reality is this (pic of stabs to the back).

41. Symbolic of the whole case is the gas cans. She wants you to disregard it. She wants you to carry the cans for her. Don’t leave this courtroom filled with the stench of gasoline on your hands. She’s asking you to help her carry them out and take them with her. The state asks you to do your duty. Return a verdict of guilty. Thank You.

Juan Marinez- closing part 3

  1. The shot took place near the sink. The knife wounds had to be first. No blood in the wound track. The heart wasn’t beating.
  2. More direct indicators (pic of end of hall with lots of footprints in blood). Looks like a wildebeast migration. How many times was she stomping around that? But there’s nothing in the bedroom. She’s cognizant. It would have been all over the bedroom. She begins to drag him. An attempt to clean up. A head shot, no blood, heart not pumping, he is dead. The casing from the 25 caliber gun from the staged burglary falls on top of blood. Dragging him, pulling him along, head exposed, casing expelled onto blood already there. So she’s killed him three times over. Is that enough pre-meditation? A very directed attack.
  3. The clean up. An interesting thing- the camera-she deletes photos, looks at photos. Assume the sex photos were already deleted. 162 inadvertent photos deleted after death (*I think I got that wrong…seems extreme!). During the attack he couldn’t care less about the camera. She carried it to that location.
  4. After she shoots him he’s put back in the shower. She’s still thinking: ‘I’ve got to get rid of the evidence.’ She deleted only certain pictures. She deleted only certain pics- not the ones of the dog, only the ones that hurt her . That’s directed behavior. Not dis-associative amnesia. Even San Francisco fog wouldn’t be so cloudy to account for this kind of behavior. Takes the camera from that area (and important- found in washer). There are NO STEPS  (in blood) leading from the bedroom to the washer. So she cleaned herself up. Items worn were taken off. Could have taken with her. The glass under the sink…she cleaned him up. Washed away any contact to show her being there. DNA all washed away. We don’t know if she turned on the shower. It isn’t because she loved him or wanted him to look good. He’s all crumpled up there. Destroyed the DNA.
  5. She’s focused (on cleaning) the bedroom area near the closet. Maybe she dropped the knife there. Her knife had been dripping blood. She carried it out. If she carried it to the dishwasher it had to have been cleaned up upstairs or wrapped in something so there would be no blood on the stairs. She cleaned it, maybe put in her purse. Thinking the whole thing through- staging the scene. The gun is taken, footwear was not found. Even towels- one was missing from the set- were in the washer and the cycle run. She used Clorox. The hands were clean when the Clorox was grabbed. She had already cleaned up so she wouldn’t get caught. It requires a space of time. And killing someone three times over requires time, regardless of what happened first. The heart, the throat, the gunshot- all fatal. A staged scene.
  6. Equally demonstrative of how she was thinking- license plate upside down (and stopped in Utah), packed up bloody clothes, she moved or took the camera, purse, gun. She was careful there was nothing anywhere but the bathroom.
  7. She got in the car and left Napoleon behind. She comes up with gas. If in a fog how do you remember you have gas cans? Not something she does on a regular basis. She calls Ryan and lies about where she’s been. He could potentially say she was with him. She’s still staging the scene. If she didn’t kill him why call and leave him a message? She’s thinking. The message- there’s no fog, she’s not mumbling on the recording. She tried several messages. Why? Why not call police? Why continue on her journey and try to make it seem normal? Because she had it planned. Ryan = alibi, and she has some romantic interest. Gosh, you can almost hear the violins, their first kiss, and a more passionate kiss.  ‘He’s full of crap’ –anyone who doesn’t agree with her. They were involved in a sexual fashion- he has nothing to gain from lying.
  8. Leslie- she talks an=bout her and Travis’s kids in the future. Staging the scene. Well she didn’t know he was dead.
  9. Injury to her hand was from the knife slipping.

10. Dan Freeman- calls when the body is found. She’s crying and calls the Bishop to see if he’s alive. Creating a wall, no one can say she has anything to do with this. Lies to everybody. Staging the scene. A staged defense by lies.

11. In court with you that would bring out the truth? She lies to you – the gas cans- absolutely without a shadow of a doubt she’s a liar. Walmart and Salt Lake gas receipts also go to pre-med. No direct evidence- circumstantial. Evidence she appeared to direct- seeing, hearing. (He goes into the story about circumstantial evidence being like seeing footprints in the sand and knowing someone’s been there). There are many footprints here: ‘The worst thing’, stolen gun, gas cans. Lying, license, phone off, photos, the rest of the evidence. She pre-meditated the murder. The car in Redding paid directly to Budget. The finger injury- she showed it to you. When asked: ‘Well you really didn’t get any injuries’ she said ‘Well I also got the injury to my finger, then turns and says: ‘No, no no, Casa Ramos/Margaritaville/house. Looked you in the face and lied to you.

12. The Law of Attraction, all the experts. ‘No jury will convict her.’ Elizabeth Barrett Browning: ‘How do I love thee? Let me count the lies.’

13. Alyce with her Master’s and large CV- is also a liar. Said she testified on behalf of a male 1-2 times. When pressed she had no name. then ‘Well I didn’t testify.’ Keynote speaker? Snow White? She wasn’t. Tried to justify her lies to you so they wouldn’t look so bad. ‘White lies are ok’ – if it’s to her benefit. She wasn’t truthful to you- looked at you and lied. She’s an advocate lying on behalf of Jodi Arias…44 hours with her, sending books, visiting her. It’s contaminated; foul –she lied to you.

14. Dr. Samuels scoring and rescoring- why rescore? There’s no reason to rescore 3 times unless you want to change the scores. The PDS test- there is no doubt she lied on #14.  Tiger, Bear, Gopher- it doesn’t matter the bottom line is it’s a lie. If you went to the Dr. and lied about your pain is the treatment any good? She suffered trauma…which trauma? The trauma of lying about the killing of Travis or the trauma of non-existent DV? Keep in mind the PTSD was based on many DV events, yet only 4 examples to you were never linked to PTSD. And Dr. Samuels said he probably should have re-administered.

15. A litany of lies. It’s important how it fits in. Told the police exaggerations, and then minimized. Dr. Geffner says exaggeration really isn’t a lie- IT IS, because it’s not telling the truth.

16. July 15th she’s arrested – over one month (since the killing). She had time to think about it. She had a story ready. She had such a strong will; she would not budge. Det: ‘You were there.’ JA: ‘NO, I wasn’t there.’ The palm print in blood- well of course it’s there. She’s adaptable and nimble when in a situation. She’s quick thinking- designed to manipulate. Says whatever fits the story. She denied everything and wanted to see photos to conform her story to what the police knew. She asks to see the photos. Previously when showing them she was crying- for your sympathy- as she sits there with a red nose, face down apparently crying. July 16 (next day) she changes it and makes herself the hero- pushing the woman down, the gun to her head. ‘I wish I could’ve stayed there; fought.’ Manipulating the story. Now, years later she ‘s truthful? Non-stop lies- to you, the health care professionals, police and media. On TV she’s such a calm person. She’s a chameleon and will adjust to the situation. Friends- she lies to them- Leslie re: ‘When we have kids…’ What could you possibly gain from that? She goes further (than needs to)with her lies.

17. Freeman calls her then she goes to the Bishop. She adds the extras to really sell it. All of those days testifying to you. Her defense based on lies. For self defense she added ornate lies about physical violence. Goes into great detail about it, banging his head against the wall and she’s the calm one. A very good liar. A sophisticated liar. The acts of DV. Look at the journals- no acts of DV. Any reason other than the Law of Attraction and Alyce? Any reason to doubt what’s written there? Friends never saw it, no police, no medical. Monumental lies made up as fits her defense.

18. Then created a lie- a hot button topic. How horrific is it to be accused falsely of being a pedophile? (Alyce…). On the computers there’s no images anywhere. How absolutely hateful that allegation is. But she went a little too far. The journal- no event. No texts. What human doesn’t go to the police? Phone calls back and forth that don’t match. The new approach to pedophilia- let’s jump in the sack. If true the journal wouldn’t have said ‘Nothing noteworthy happened. Nothing in computer, anywhere in the house. The only thing he has left: his reputation. A hateful allegation with nothing to support it. What goes through you’re head when you hear that the first time? (He’s a horrible person). The pinnacle.

19. (*At this point Martinez compares the evidence with the juror instructions).

20. Credibility of witness: directly relates to pedophile and DV. What testimony to accept/reject. This person here’s the epitome of a liar.  How can you know when she’s telling the truth about anything? 18 days on the stand wasted. See her in the light of day. She’ll look each and every one of you in the eye and lie to you. Would you go to a Dr. who lies to you?

21. She was there. She knows. Her memory is incredible. Unless it hurts her…then the fog rolls in.

22. Manner while testifying. She attempts to cry. Gets angry. Snaps out and tries to make the person asking the questions to blame. ‘You’re scrambling my brain.’ Not my fault I keep lying. It’s your fault. I can snap at you and smirk at you from the witness stand.

23. Motive to lie. This defendant has some motive. Alyce- for her reputation? With Ryan – why lie? He lives in Utah and only met her once. Amanda- why make things up? The only person with a motive is Jodi Arias. She wrote before the trial, wrote they didn’t happen, didn’t tell anyone.  Pedophile- nothing supports what she said.

24. In order for her to prevail it actually comes down to whether or not you believe her. All of the other evidence contradicts her. You’d have to turn your back on all the other evidence. 

25. Burden of proof. You must be ‘firmly convinced.’ Absolute certainty not required. You don’t need to overcome every doubt.  A procedure you indicated you would follow.

26. Inquiry. Once found guilty that’s the end of the inquiry. You don’t need to got any further.

27. There is only one charge in this case. Pre-me / felony murder. If you vote and it is split (like 9 for pre-med and 3 for felony) it is still 1st degree murder.

28. Cause of death is proven. Knew she would cause death- slit throat, stabbed heart and shot. Killed 3 ways. Intended to kill/knew she would kill- 3 different ways.

29. After knowing she would kill him she reflected on the decision. Regardless of the length of time it’s 1st degree. Stabbed in the shower than after minutes chasing him down and slashing his throat. Shot in head also indicates she wanted him to die. This was a long period of time for Mr. Alexander to go through. From the shower, stumbling, trying to get away.

30. If she didn’t bring the gun then you have a burglary. She didn’t have his permission. If somebody dies when taking a gun it’s 1st degree.

31. Heat of passion- look at the photos. Not the instant affect of passion. (Pic) Look like he’s ready to fight? And who’s telling you? A liar. The gun is with her.

32. On June 10th she called this police officer (indicates Flores) and said Travis never had a gun…just fists. No doubt that she said it. At that time she didn’t know how important that was going to be. She did bring it- burglary at Grandpa’s. Heat of passion? She called the police and lied. I’m now going to decide to believe her? That the father gave it to him? And told Alyce it happened in the closet. There’s no bullets or cleaning supplies. Nothing to indicate he had a gun.

33. The shelves. She stepped on the second shelf. They move down with pressure. You saw the photos. There’s no activity there. Everything, her statement says there’s no heat of passion- she brought the gun. Told the police he didn’t have a gun.

34. Her first story she was ‘afraid.’ Second story- she didn’t want to get into trouble. Her first call to police she wanted to know what police knew. She didn’t know her story yet. And you’d have to disregard the 25 caliber gun from Grampa’s.

35. The circuitous route through the closet. She could have ran out. He was naked and wouldn’t have chased her outside.

36. What are you going to do with an unloaded gun? Throw it at him? It’s an absolute lie.

37. The lesser included we won’t discuss.

38. Felony murder. Attempt/burglary. To remain unlawfully. We don’t know if she was invited in. And being stabbed to death- if I was being stabbed to death I would no longer want you in my house. The consent to come in isn’t there. Furthering this is she took his gun. Even if it wasn’t her fault she caused the death and took his gun. So murder 1st degree under both.

39. These instructions are mandatory.

40. Keep in mind she attempted to manipulate you. (pic) This is what she wants you to think (*I’m guessing a ‘happy’ pic). But the reality is this (pic of stabs to the back).

41. Symbolic of the whole case is the gas cans. She wants you to disregard it. She wants you to carry the cans for her. Don’t leave this courtroom filled with the stench of gasoline on your hands. She’s asking you to help her carry them out and take them with her. The state asks you to do your duty. Return a verdict of guilty. Thank You.

Juan Martinez Closing Argument-Part 2

  1.  (31) Money is tight, she needs to use credit cards. People can’t link her to Arizona. She calls Derryl. He still has feelings for her. He gulped before talking about the call where she says she’s going to Mesa. Alyce has the same in her notes. She needed gas cans. Alyce thought it was supposed to be an unplanned visit.
  2. Utah- Ryan…no one will know she was in Arizona. Gets 2 gas cans from Derryl. Rents a car from 90 miles away. Says Priceline didn’t offer same deal in Yreka. Her bank statement says she used Budget. She used Priceline for the flight to Travis’ Memorial. She lied to you. People won’t recognize her in Redding. Won’t be recognized at an airport. Gets a nice little red car. Says she’s just driving ‘around town.’ Red gets the attention of police and we certainly don’t want that. She’s on a mission to kill somebody. Why would you take a gun if not to kill this guy?
  3. They have sex down in the office. She scratched the CD- he throws it. He gets mad at everything! Why take these CD’s? To show who- other than him? She planned it- it’s a good way/excuse to show up…’the only reason I dropped by…’ She left Yreka with the CD’s but forgot when attempting to manipulate from the stand. She had to take those CD’s from her house then put in her car then in rental.
  4. The red car- police will see her. She was stopped by police in West Jordan. Wants to hide she’s going to Mesa because she’s going to kill him. Nobody would be upset if she showed up in Mesa…not the Bishop, not her family. Only reason is to kill. She makes preparations…you gotta tip your hat to her. The white car- gonna drive around…a field of lies sprouted around her on the witness stand.
  5. Spends a night at Matts, then Derryls. Got gas cans. Gas cheaper in Utah, Arizona- that was one of her reasons…so why fill them in Pasadena? For taking the drive to Mesa with no evidence she was here.
  6. Takes a detour- with some afterthought. A meticulous approach to killing. Buys a gas can in Walmart. Admits it. $12.96…I guess that’s the price of pre-meditation today. She is very specific: “I took it back to the same store that day.” JM: “Would it surprise you there’s no record of a return?” JA: “Yes it would, I got money back.” Why did she you tell you that? It’s pre-meditated…going to Mesa with a gun and knife. Knives are not in the bathroom.
  7. She doesn’t want to be recognized. (He puts up pic of her with dog, her hair has blond streaks). You don’t need anybody to tell you her hair color believe your eyes. She’s pre-meditating the murder. The state doesn’t even need to prove a whole plan like this, just that she thought about it. Now she can freely drive through Mesa.
  8. ‘Mr. Alexander guilted me into coming.’ Not her fault. She told him she was going to Utah. Problem is her word. Do we really know what he told her on that call? Or did she call to see who’s there and what he’s doing? Did he even know she was coming? Are you gonna take her word- she has no problem telling lies. ‘Yeah I was fakin’ it’…Squealing like a cat…’because I need 2 hands.’
  9. She lies outside the courtroom and on the witness stand.  She looked each one of you in the eyes and lied to you. Gas cans, Priceline, the finger- he kicked me (but no medical).  Cut at Casa Ramos or Margaritaville on a metal edge or a glass, or June 4th at Travis’ on a glass. What story are you gonna believe?

10. Something bizarre and coincidental – a hoard of skateboarders that carry screwdrivers (or you’re not allowed in the club). Get a Strawberry Frappe and things will happen to your plate. ‘I was pulling put and saw something flat on the ground. What would motivate you to go pick it up if you’re concerned with safety and you don’t know what it is? She didn’t even look at the back plate. Then it was a rectangle. No suspicion it’s for your car- why get outside of car and go back? When you’re lying – that’s when you do that. She didn’t compare the numbers, she takes it so now you’re a thief. In Utah one is upside down. So she can’t be identified. Can’t see because I need glasses, picks it up with bugs on it…thought it was mine. Who does that? No one does that! Because she got stopped and has to explain, so she made up a story.

11. Fills cans in Pasadena to get enough gas to get through Arizona. She said she stopped for gas. There is no evidence of it. She turned off the phone so she can’t be traced. Lost the charger…bought one at a store (that’s what she told Ryan) when cleaning up (from killing Travis) she found the charger under the seat. There is no electronic or physical  trail of her being here. She knows she was coming to kill him. No need to stop the phone, she loves the phone. Has a white car, gun and a knife.

12. She shows up to see him. She admitted she lied like that’s good. She knows the code 0187. She didn’t knock on the front door or peep in the back window. There’s no indication he came to the door.  It’s 4 am. Remember she said ‘I came in and stood by the door and watched him for 30-45 seconds.’ Who does that? Some stalker- unannounced- to surprise. The dog barks. ‘Hello.’ Brings purse in- big enough for gun and knife. They go to sleep. No sex? The sex fiend? ‘I was tired.’ She said no and he abided. They slept. The next day they have sex. Dr. Samuels says the photos were taken when she was straddling him. She tells him Travis had pictures of all these breasts on his computer.

13. He didn’t go to Yreka, she drove there. The camera- Thank God for the camera! Religious overtones. It’s all about him nothing about her. About the Mormon faith- she wants to manipulate you. He’s holding himself out as a virgin. With Deanna they transgressed and went to the Bishop and never did it again. The willing partner is right here…1 hand or 2 hands…she enjoyed it. (Shows pic of her naked on bed) Her face- can you tell by her grimacing face if that’s a bad face? The psych’s said that. It’s all about Travis. She never wanted to do it- it was all him. She was enjoying it so stop pointing a finger at him! Being a Mormon isn’t being a human? The finger points at both. That’s not what this case is about. Travis adopted what she provided (KY) what she introduced.

14. Shower pics- she says Travis wanted to show off his body.  She told Detective Flores that he really didn’t want to, he was reluctant. She told him she loved the way he shaved- old fashioned. She got him into the shower- it was more her idea than his. Think back to Derryl- he was asked if she ever took photos of him and he said only once, ‘I didn’t want them, I was in the shower.’ She takes photos…sexy…ill will there. Armed with both the knife and gun at that point. It’s ‘Calvin Klein’ the water dripping…it’s bucolic. That’s not what’s going on.

15. The rope. 20’ long tied to the bed. Depends on who whether tied at wrists or ankles and wrists. She’s making it up to justify the knife there. Why ankles? Then wrists and ankles? She changes positions- she has a lot to remember. There’s NO ROPE! She would’ve had to move to clean up the bedroom, wet with water and blood and go into bedroom and leave a trail. Nothing’s there.

16. The last photo of Travis (seated in shower) while still living. Quite a legacy. Defenseless- no gun, no knife. No dignity either. If anybody’s defenseless it isn’t Jodi Arias. His killer standing there dressed with a camera. Part of this story of hers is this is an accidental photo but look at the acuity/sharpness. She held camera firmly and pushed the button. She has him in that position, she can approach him. It’s her with the man she just had sex with and planned to kill May 28. Although pre-meditation requires thinking, not a plan, not days. It’s cold, without feeling pre-meditation, intimate with and attacks. Shot to head? Forensics say otherwise.

17. She lied to the police, the experts and here. Now we believe her with this one aspect? The cuts (knife) were in front, defensive wounds. He was alive. A knife wound to the heart, he’s not dying immediately, blood’s coming from his mouth. In a sense she’s already killed him. We know he gets up because throughout the bathroom everywhere there’s blood- that equals movement. Not ‘flopping if the fish’ but purposeful movement to save his life. As this time goes by there’s pre-meditation. After the first stab wounds he ambulates (she didn’t carry him to the sink) he goes there by himself. (Photo of the blood on the sink). The sink with his blood after he’s been stabbed. There’s patterns on this photo, injuries to the hands, more on the left…the smudge. Slight injury to right hand. He’s still alive but he’s still bleeding. There’s drops by gravity. Blood in his mouth. He’s stabbed in the back while there (pics) and the back of the head as he stands at the sink. Took time…he stood there. The defendant was there with the knife stabbing him. The mirror has blood spatter. Force was applied to his head (pic) when he was standing there- spatter on the mirror. He’s not dead. Still standing there. She came to visit him. (Pic) Blood transfer…the item with blood was Mr. Alexander. It’s a rainbow. Ironic, no good luck at the end of that rainbow.

18. He’s stumbling with somebody after him. He’s trying to get away from her. (Juan sees JA crying) Oh, she may cry now on instructions sympathy is not to be considered. Blood on the other wall, more at the bottom. She chases him down, that’s what she did. He’s still alive. How many stab wounds? Do we need to count? One to the chest will kill him. The back of the head, his back, accelerating his departure from earth. The end of his rainbow. That’s what she does (pic) slits his throat from ear to ear. He got there by his own movements as he tried to get away from her. He collapses. She goes for the throat. And you want to believe she doesn’t remember now? Why is she so directed if it’s just heat of passion? You wouldn’t have a directed hit to kill it would h=be all over the place. Indication of thinking. I caught him and now (pic0. This was a well orchestrated killing and it took time. People think…now stabbed, he tried to get away, at the sink, the mirror is reflective of what’s behind him. He’s seeing her stabbing him. She’s not done with him yet.

Juan Martinez Closing Argument-Part 1

This is a not a transcript I have paraphrased. Please try to watch as the dripping sarcasm and tone of Mr. Martinez’s voice are important. I will post in 3 parts.

  1. Main themes: JA is a manipulator, a liar and nothing is her fault.
  2. She looked at the jurors and lied directly to them (re: gas cans).
  3. Relationships- She manipulates the facts. She moved in with Bobby (who cheated) and I was so good (sarcasm) and lived in a trailer (never mind I was skipping school). She hits the backspace button to read his private e-mails (not her fault there isn’t better security on the computers in the library) just as she did with Travis. She immediately went to Bobby and confronted him.
  4. This individual killed Travis and even after stabbing him over and over and slashing his throat and even after shooting him she will not let him rest in peace. Now she uses lies.
  5. She staged the scene for the police.
  6. She uses the media, craves the limelight. She autographed her manifesto for when famous. Said: ‘No jury will convict me.’ Now let’s bask in the light of the truth. See who she really is. A manipulator. She wants to play the victim even though there’s no abuse. Her own e-mail said she was destructive.
  7. After Bobby she got with Matt. It’s not her fault she’s a good worker, a waitress and someone comes in and tells her things (what she wants you to believe just like with the Travis’ story, it repeats because she’s lying. She’s trying to manipulate you.
  8. Derryl- not her fault he doesn’t want to marry or have more kids. How can it be her fault that people have free will? She looks for someone else. Those Mormon boys are a good catch- family values, successful and to Travis’s misfortune he was that boy. Wanted a Mormon, a child- perfect catch.
  9. He (Travis) was so sexually interested in her (not her fault the word ‘No’ is not in her lexicon). She was thinking ‘No’- at least that’s what she told you. Never communicated to him. Manipulates and pretends to be the victim. She can’t point the finger enough that Travis was a bad Mormon. Why not leave if he is so bad? You are Mormon too.

10. She converted and had classes/met with missionaries. Not her fault they didn’t tell her (Law of Chastity). Travis is the bad guy- he said it was ok. In conceivable- she’s in the same situation. She wants your sympathy.

11. This relationship was long distance. She couldn’t reach out and shot him in the face. She stalked him and showed up unannounced.

12. They weren’t mutually exclusive so it’s ok to send texts to other women. But it’s ok after his Memorial to talk to a guy on the airplane and get a phone number. After all, the guy she was with up and died after she stabbed, slit throat and shot him.

13. Travis did see her and have sex. They are trying to shock you. He does what others do behind closed doors and he doesn’t want people to know.

14. On Feb. 14 she talks about her violent tendencies. One of the things she doesn’t talk about is receiving the package. It’s 4:30 – 5 pm (if mail is slow in Palm Desert) and there’s no mention of Spiderman underwear, no ‘Thank you’ for the chocolates, no such delivery. It can’t be verified- but she will make things up. She forgot about the e-mail. With the truth you don’t have to remember nothing.’ She can’t show the undies…she threw them away.

15. When she came over in Feb. she was ‘happy.’ Why did she have to go through his computer and hit ‘back-space?’ It’s not her fault, it’s his fault he has contact with men and women and how dare he attempt to spend New Year’s Eve with someone- he should be in a hut somewhere.

16. They are on vacation. She goes through his phone. One of the things she liked about him was he was social. There’s no names of anyone having sexual contact with him at that time. So that justified it, this person with borderline- so that’s it. We’re gonna break up (and she’s oozing through those fake tears on the stand) – yeah, I’m really hurt but let’s go on vacation anyway. She wants to curb his free will. But she’s not letting him go that easy. She moves close to him after the break-up. The stalking begins. Well, before she did the phone and the computer the first day they were officially boyfriend – girlfriend. There was stalking behavior from the beginning.

17. She’s in Mesa. Why is she here? He’s so persuasive he talked her into it. She just can’t say ‘No.’ According to her he asked her. When here rather than dating and being social she begins to be more attentive, perhaps then she’ll be the only one.

18. August 2007 she goes to his house unannounced. Peeps in the windows. By the light of the TV (now the light of truth) she sees them kissing. That is the end of the world. So what? He’s entitled to do it. The lights are off and he’s moved on. She could’ve left or never come in the first place. She’s so upset- sees the bra unhooked…so what is she? The Mormon conscious? She wants to manipulate your perception. Ruin his reputation. She comes back the next day (they are broken up) it’s ok to peep but she wants an explanation. What explanation did he ever owe her at that point?

19. The first domestic violence (DV) event she didn’t write because she’s a nice person. Or the Law of Attraction. You lie. It’s ok to lie to your journal- you’re lying to yourself. She’s making it up. There’s no corroboration of any incident.

20. Exploitive sex. She regaled us with these intimate details but she’s ‘uncomfortable?’ In the texts she’s the one requesting the sexual acts. ‘If you’re good…’ They were both in it. He never forced her to do anything. It’s an attempt to manipulate you.

21. The physical violence ‘wasn’t so bad’ so she didn’t write. No one knows, sees, no police calls – had a similar situation with Bobby and after calling 911 they didn’t come out. Justification. No 911 calls. Because it never happened. Everything in this case points to it did not happen. No medical records.

22. March 2008 she’s leaving and he hits her. In journal he ‘didn’t want me to leave’ and ‘gave me 3 tender kisses.’ Kissing is domestic violence. Then an apologist like Alyce LaViolette says: ’those words don’t mean what they say.’ Law of Attraction- it means just the opposite.

23. Jan. 22- DV – no corroboration. Says in journal ‘nothing noteworthy has happened.’ You are being asked to make a leap.

24. April 2008 another DV incident. She doesn’t tell anyone. She was very specific as to 4 of them. If telling the truth you don’t need to remember nothing. ’She told Dr. Karp there were 10, 15, 20 incidents of DV at that point for PTSD. What’s true? None of it is true. She’s manipulating the evidence. Karp said she had PTSD based on these DV acts. Not actually an attempt to manipulate- they are lies!

25. She moves and it’s like a ray of sunshine for Travis. When she was here she came over unannounced, broke into accounts and hid behind his Christmas tree.

26. May 10th– the sex tape. It’s very important to hear how she deals with him. He doesn’t know he’s being recorded. He can’t listen to it so what’s the benefit? Yes, he said some things, it was a private conversation between he and her even though they were broken up and she had stalked. He enjoys the sexual contact. She introduced him to certain things and opened his eyes sexually. What’s wrong is one is recording it. You can listen, draw your own conclusions. She kept it.

27. May 19 2008 Travis i-m’s Regan that he’s ‘extremely afraid of Jodi because of her stalking behavior. He has less than a month to live. He knows what’s going on between them. Alyce said it wasn’t true. She can read minds from the past and know what Travis is thinking. No- Jodi is manipulating. It says: ‘Jodi-read this.’

28. It was pre-meditated-who would know better than him? The peeping, tires, ring stolen, Christmas tree.

29. May 26. Well, he’s mean to her. That’s correct- he’s extremely afraid when those names are called. ‘I’m nothing more than a dildo with a heartbeat’ that’s how she made him feel. He feels derogatory to himself. She manipulates with sex. May 26 he tells her. She apologizes to him and all is supposed to be forgiven. He’s had enough. “I don’t want your apology, I want you to understand what I think of you. He’s afraid and he does think she’s evil. And look at the next words- how prophetic: ‘You are the worst thing that has ever happened to me.’ Any doubt that’s the truth? Do we need to look at pictures of his slashed throat? His frog-like crumpled up state in the shower- bullet in the temple? Yes he’s angry over everything she’s done to him. Like she‘s manipulated you with the gas cans- she lied. Then he says ‘you are a sociopath’ that expresses his feelings. ‘You only cry for yourself- you saw her cry on the witness stand. She never expected to get caught!  ‘You have never cared about me…you have betrayed me.’ He believes she has done something horrific. He’s done with her. ‘You’re sick and you have scammed me.’ Are you going to allow her to scam you- buy the lies?

30. May 28 (2 short days after) there’s a plan. No doubt she’s intelligent. She could buy a gun but in California there’s a waiting period. She indicated it. Knows her grandfather has guns. Begins the actual steps to Mesa to kill Travis. There’s no other explanation- she stole it, a very small gun ‘looks like a toy.’ The burglary was strange- they went through four rooms talking one thing from each room. Didn’t take money, left the large guns – rifle. Burglars don’t do that. The burglar is Jodi Arias sitting right there (points) and she needs a gun that can’t be traced. She began to take these steps after the text where he had had enough of her.

An Eggtreenews.wordpress.com blog on Martinez today -5/2

I am sitting in front of a stack of 42 handwritten pages of notes from today. Martinez was amazing. While I ponder what to do please read a post from my favorite blogger on this trial, and please, if you like it go to the link and read the many other hysterical posts…Thanks Eggy!

Mr. Martinez Cooks a Hell of a Goose

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-W.O.W., Arizona

Juan “The Prosecutor” Martinez ruled the Maricopa Courthouse Grill today. And it was good. The aroma of roasting demon goose wafted from the courthouse and soon encircled the whole globe like a cleansing incense. Juan may as well have been wearing a chef’s hat and apron that said “Kiss ‘The Prosecutor,’” because his squeeing groupies outside will go absolutely crazy after hearing his closing argument. 

The master chef don’t need no stinkin’ recipe. He must have a photographic memory, because he stood spinning Jodi on the rotisserie for about seven hours without referring to a single note. And his closing was cohesive, passionate, and thorough. He shined the bright light of truth on Stabby Einstein’s mountain of lies, and connected every single dot flawlessly to expose her for the diabolical monster she is. And Stabby definitely no-likey hearing the truth about herself. 

The succubus in human form doodled with a palpable rage at the defense table, seething in her own furious juices as Juan spelled out his case for premeditation. Her scribbling only grew more intense as he drove each point home, until finally she started smirking, shaking her head, giggling, and muttering to herself in the bubble of arrogance she likes to call victimhood. Like your typical battered woman.  

Demons have no idea how to cry like real people. Under the mistaken impression that tears come from the nasal passages, Stabby rubbed her nose repeatedly in an attempt to turn on the waterworks, as Juan displayed graphic autopsy pictures of Travis. Epic fail. At least learn how to fake it right for our benefit, Rudolph. And we can see you playing peek-a-boo with every picture of your handiwork, so wipe the “duper’s delight” smirk off your face along with the fake tears, because you’re fooling nobody. 

Homecoming Queen contender Jenny must have pulled an all nighter perfecting her super professional eyerolls and sneers in the mirror, because she looks beat. But not too beat to practice her classic headshot pose over at the defense table, with her chin resting gently on her curled fist. And NEVER too beat for a sidebar objection, even in the midst of closing arguments. After all, a teen modeling scout could be watching. 

Classy Heavy D actually giggled when Juan mentioned Travis was naked when he was killed. So we can definitely expect him to get down and dirty tomorrow with his porn obsession when the defense presents their closing fairytale. 

But for now… Enjoy the fire-licked rotisserie goose cooked to perfection by Mr. Martinez. 

Link to happiness: http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/

Arias Trial- Jury Instructions 5/2

This is not a transcript, I have paraphrased.

  1. The jurors get a copy of the instructions. These will be returned and shredded at the end.2. Apply the facts. These are rules you should use. Get what actually happened from evidence in court. Verdict should not be based on sympathy or prejudice. Consider all instructions.
  2. The openings and closings are not evidence.
  3. A stipulation can be accepted/rejected.
  4. Disregard sustained/stricken testimony.
  5. The state has the burden beyond a reasonable doubt. Beyond a reasonable doubt-firmly convinced. There are few things we know with absolute certainty. If convinced of guilty find her guilty. If benefit of doubt find not guilty.
  6. Ignore statements of law enforcement if coerced.
  7. Don’t consider the punishment.
  8. Defense doesn’t have to provide any evidence.
  9. You can believe all/part or none of testimony based on what’s seen, heard, memory and quality of memory. Consider manner, motive and bias.

10. Use common sense and experience.

11. Evidence can be direct or circumstantial.

12. Expert should be judged like other witnesses.

13. Evidence of other acts are present. To establish motive plan, not character.

14. Witness if police same as any other witness.

15. Defendant’s testimony same as any other witness.

16. Don’t need motive.

17. 1st Degree:

–       Defendant caused the death.

–       Defendant intended/knew would kill another human being, reflected on that thought before killing. Reflection time may be short.

18. 2nd Degree:

–       If cannot agree on 1st.

–       Proof of intentional death.

–       Intentionally knew would injure /result in death.

–       Extreme indifference to human life- reckless.

–       Doesn’t require pre-meditation.

–       If you have a reasonable doubt about 1st vs. 2nd degree.

19. Sudden quarrel/Heat of passion

–     Adequate provocation.

–     Words aren’t adequate.

–     There must be no cooling off period.

–     Sudden quarrel-provoked.

Must find guilty of Manslaughter.

20. 1st  Degree-felony murder

–       Committed burglary.

–       Caused death in course of burglary/ or in flight.

–       Intentionally did something to culminate if the offense.

–       Entered unlawfully.

–       Did so to commit felony.

–       Objective to engage in that conduct.

–       Not necessary to be unanimous in both 1st –Pre-med and 1st –felony. If not the jurors must write the numbers on the verdict form.

21. Justified/Self Defense

–       A reasonable person would believe deadly force necessary.

–       Defendant use no more force than necessary to a reasonable person.

–       Only to protect against deadly physical force.

–       When the danger ends you stop.

–       Justified if reasonable person would believe they would have been dead.

–       Legal right to be there.

–       Not engaged in unlawful act.

–       State has burden defendant didn’t act with justification.

–       Consider-type of relationship, length, frequency (contact), and length of time.

Arias trial 5/1 part 3- with Jury Q & A

Jury Questions (paraphrased)

1.  How do you feel events such as incarceration…can affect the tests?”     MMPI- increase paranoia, depression, anxiety. No effect on MMCI (long term traits).

2.  Could an individual score differently after a traumatic experience like killing someone than before?      Depends on tests. Trauma inventories- yes, definitely. Personality tests- yes, can be impacted…depression.

3.  Discuss high/low scales on validity page of the MMPI. (He goes through and most are normal). Exaggerating is elevated- distress/cry for help.

4. OK for old version of test / old version of DSM?     DSM gives criteria for diagnosis. Like a guide. Not good to use outdated one.

5.  Changes between TSI 1 and TSI 2?    26 new or rewritten questions, 6 rewritten or taken out.

6.  PDS valid if lying about the event?     If lied…yes that’s important. If this didn’t do it and it’s made up then where did it come from? Why occurring?   Showing PTSD? Evaluator needs to find out.

7.  Lack of hemorrhage (blood) = lack of injury to the brain?   I assume gun shot is after death…depends on how far after…maybe not as much.

8.  A gun shot at a short distance wouldn’t drop a person?   Depends on caliber.  Even shot gun didn’t incapacitate…usually if through the side it will.

9.  If you get no compensation for this case…any organizations you are involved in?     Yes, the Institute will bill for services. 70-80 hours so far, $85-250 an hour, total $13,000 – $14,000. A small part of our budget.

10.  Regarding lying on the tests?    Validity tests detect these people.

11.  Possible to manipulate the four tests?    I could probably…you can go on the internet for the MMPI, tell how to fake it. Not possible with a battery of tests.

12.  If Dr. Demarte had additional evidence to support BPD would you see it in her report?   Yes.   Did she include this?    A little bit…most were from after meeting Travis. Has to have a pattern over years.

13.  Criminal act (?) cause anxiety?     If close by.   Considering years in jail?    I didn’t evaluate her- not my role.  (Not sure I got these right).

14. Did you know you were evaluating Jodi Arias.   I knew they were (the tests) Jodi’s.

15. Had you heard of the case?    No.              I was basically given the tests. I didn’t know the details.

16. Can bullets travel (again I missed part)? Yes, if it hits something it can.

17.If there is…(I missed)  answer: I could not.

18. Something about the summary scales…?    I was informed by the defense that she did not know they existed. Not using it is one thing, not knowing about it is another. Also using it to diagnose BPD…there’s entire books written on the MMPI…

Follow up, JW:

  1. DSM tr didn’t have different criteria for PTSD.
  2. PDS still had a trauma it matters but doesn’t make it invalid.
  3. TSI tests were similar over years.
  4. If she had/has BPD how do you explain all the trauma?
  5. Bullets aren’t his specialty but it would have had to go through sinuses and deflect through motor strips. Also the membrane is intact.

JM is up:

  1. He goes through and asserts that her pattern of consistency in tests is LYING! They argue over whether ‘exaggerate’ means ‘lie’. JM says so if the prosecutor says he’s 6 feet tall…Dr: “It’s likely both.” They argue some more.
  2. PDS test is based on a lie. Does it call into question the validity of the test?  “Correct.”
  3. MMPI info- says valid, but maybe exaggerated?
  4. The different DSM books come out around every 10 years. Dr. Demarte gave the TSI 1 when the TSI 2 had been out for 6 months.
  5. He didn’t know Dr. Samuels indicated to look at a possible personality disorder.
  6. They argue over what he had said about Dr, Demarte being unqualified. It was partly due to what the defense lawyers told him.
  7. He is getting his salary for today as well as the Institute getting paid.
  8. He no longer treats patients. He consults. JM implies he testifies mostly and he denies it.
  9. The Dr. has only worked with 2 projectiles in the head. JM points out that is less in terms of experience to the one who conducts autopsies. He agrees.

JM calls Dr Horn, the ME back up:

  1. Autopsy photos back.  Not a lot of blood in skull=bled out/deceased. He draws the path of the bullet (a direct line). The brain was too decomposed to find the trajectory. If last wound it did nothing, if 1st then he would have collapsed within 1-2 seconds.
  2. JW on cross: It would take seconds for blood to drain from the system. Though the brain was like pudding he could still get slices. There was no wound track. He is not familiar with research about people with frontal lobe injuries being ok. Never in his experience.
  3. Juror Question (HLN cut off the beginning- I got something like Are they deceased when you do the autopsy? “I hope so.”
  4. JM –Gun shot immediately incapacitating? ‘If he was alive.” And if dead that would explain the lack of blood.
  5. JW-This is your opinion? Yes- my training and experience.
  6. Jury question about the intact membrane—he looks at his report and says it was a typo.
  7. JM re: the perforation- he says there would have had to have been as it sits right where the bone was tore apart.
  8. JW – You reviewed your report- Yes. You know this case is serious? Yes. You made a mistake?  Yes.
  9. JM brings in Dr. Jill Hayes she does mostly forensics psychology.  Bachelors in 1990 from Armstrong State College. Augusta State=Masters 1992. Took a year off study- worked in testing. Then Louisiana State U. 1998=PhD. Was on faculty at LSU-asst. Prof. Licensed 1999. Became Associate Prof- was with for 8 years. See patients, research, admin…Katrina hit- LSU under water so came to Az. Now mostly forensic, still sees some people and police officers. Testified 75 times, 50/50 defense /prosecution.

10. She is familiar with the TSI test. It requires a trauma. She has not reviewed the PDS test in this case. Question #14 –the trauma. If it is a lie –that would give you concern. If the premise behind it is a lie it calls into question everything else. If symptoms are based on a lie how valid?   Of course the test would be invalid. If you know something is a lie how do you know what is the truth.

11. Floating profile- almost 8 in elevated range. Who coined it- a person named ‘Strong’ and it meant that they are experiencing arousal, overwhelmed and applied to BPD. JM shows her JA’s profile.  An outdated term… a little, but still researched and used. JM: Dr. Gatchell said it is no longer valid…Dr. Hayes: With all due respect I would disagree…he has done more research and changed the name for his purpose with spinal patients. It still was associated with BPD patients.

12. TSI –Measures trauma. Are you incompetent if you use the TSI 1 after TSI 2 available? No…some wait for additional research to see if the new test works. The peer reviewed literature doesn’t suggest that either…there is no standard. Includes summary scales – it can. Requires summary scales.  The hand scoring = there is no spot for summary scores. I contacted the publisher and asked…and it wasn’t a requirement. You can just look at the 10 scales.

13. MMPI-Use for BPD? It’s helpful but need other pieces of the puzzle. You can’t just look at a few tests and come up with a diagnosis, you need to evaluate, interview…JM- Would you need to give any test before you gave this one? <Objection> To determine level of reading ability? You have to insure they can understand it. In this case WRAT 4. In this case was it to get more money? In this case it would only take 5 minutes.

14. JW-Can’t you just give them something to read? No- you won’t have any normed opinion- JA was at 12th grade level. If she had read through thousands of pages of Journal and texts and she can read/write, and IQ of 112…isn’t that enough to say she can read at a 5th grade level. “Well it’s 6th-8th grade level…if she had not done that she would have been criticized for not doing it. She only did reading recognition. I would have done it.” MMPI not used to diagnose. For personality and psychopathology. MCMI normed against known psych. disorders. More research done with regard to personality disorders actually on the MMPI. I would give both. If just one I would choose the MMPI as it’s better researched. MCMI is great for helping determine characteristics but MMPI is research based as well. Scoring and summaries on the TSI. Best to use updated tests? You will know it’s coming out.  Dr. H: Generally the research before is done by the people who own the test so they have a lot to gain. Also a wealth of research on the old test. Because she didn’t have it is that a good reason? It sounds crass but these tests can get costly. JW- You had to call somebody to check if summary scales were required? On this case- yes. JW: There are instructions on how to score summary scales? Dr: Not on the hand-scored test.

15. JW- Floating Profiles and Dr. Gatchell. ‘Formerly known as the floating profile’ because he works with pain management. It’s called a ‘disability profile’ with his patients. Many had BPD also. Didn’t review the PDS. JW-If lied about how the trauma occurred but there was still a trauma. Dr: If they only lied that once how do you know if they’re telling the truth? If trauma was a bear/no tiger- does that invalidate the rest of the test. Dr: I would be very concerned. When this is self-report and the initial event was a lie then how do you know the symptoms stemming from that are true? The symptoms could still be there whether tiger or bear…with proof. Need to also look for more evidence.

16. If your not sure about the PDS test and PTSD can you give other tests? ‘Definitely.’ You can’t then ignore the tests given.

17. She has done 4 Death Penalty cases in last 4 years or so. For prosecution in all those.

18. License in 1999- so four years. She has had previous experience, pratice means you have a license…I wouldn’t.

19. JM back up.  Tiger vs. Bear…Gopher?  Difficult to continue? Yes if no physical symptoms confirms they lie. If event didn’t occur how it was stated then symptoms may not be true.

20. Floating profiles- out the window? No, author is clear- he never said don’t use Floating…State rests.

Court resumes tomorrow at 9.

Arias Trial 5/1 part 2 (includes JM’s cross)

Afternoon Session

  1. JW goes back to his credentials- what National Organizations he is affiliated with.
  2. JW asks if he knows anyone from this case- he know Alyce DeLaviolette. They are colleagues. They do not work together.
  3. In this case he did not discuss testimony with anyone. He just went over the tests and reports mostly by Demarte and Samuels.
  4. She goes into some of the cases he has had prior problems with and they are mostly in the appellate stage when he has been through with the case. There was nothing unethical. Some testimony was struck.
  5. He is a Diplomate in Neuropsychology so he’s trained in brain function. He has seen 3 projectile frontal lobe injuries that did not incapacitate. He reviewed the ME’s report and since the membrane around the brain was not damaged he does not se how the brain could be affected. JW says the ME even said there was ‘No apparent injury to the brain.’ (This is news to me!) He also says the motor strips would have had to have been affected to lose motor control and they are too far back.
  6. The Dr. says he did not diagnose this case, he focused on records- not enough info to diagnose. He says Dr. Demarte doesn’t have adequate training/understanding of the tests. He cites not knowing about summary scales, the TSI 1 instead of the TSI 2, the TSI to diagnose BPD, floating profiles (outdated). He does say JA has consistent anxiety and trauma over the years.

 

J. Martinez is up:

1.  JM gets out a judge called him a ‘hired gun’ and it was at trial level—not appellate. That judge found his testimony ‘without merit.’ In the O’Rourke case the Dr. gave an opinion without speaking to the father (in a child custody case). In the Clark case he ‘lacked credibility.’ (See these cases cited in my earlier blog ‘What’s Wrong With Dr. Geffner.’) JM accused him of making things up. The Dr. admitted some was based on hearsay. In Hawaii some of his testimony was excluded.

2.  He admits knowing Alyce and co-editing her book.

3.  He does get his salary while in Arizona. JM says he will still show up to court and make things up.

4.  He’s been on the case since Nov. 2012, and then it was dropped until he came back 2 weeks ago.

5. They argue over the floating profile. The guy who came up with the test actually said in an article that the floating profile is frequently an axis 2 personality disorder, and that is most often BPD. The Dr. says it has been re-labeled. They argue over whether you can use the MMPI to diagnose BPD.

6.  There were signs of possible malingering and over-reporting on the test. They go over all of the elevated scales (we have done this at least 4 times- they are in an earlier post).  The most interesting ones elevated are ‘psychopathic deviant’ and ‘schizophrenic.’  <<Break>>

7.  JM cites a study where they took 61 people with BPD took the test and they had the same profile as JA. The Dr. does not agree.

8.  They go into the TSI tests. They argue because Dr. Demarte didn’t do the summary scales (which are, after all just summaries). JM implies if you’re smart enough you don’t need the summaries…you can do it yourself. They are not required (Dr. agrees). He doesn’t know how he knows she didn’t know about the summary scales. (I am losing it…) JM ends with: You need a summary? The Dr. starts to answer and says: “No…” and JM cuts him off with: “Thank You.” 

9. They are talking about the TSI being for trauma and the MMPI for personality. The Dr. starts to get into the area of the questions regarding sexual disfunction: # of partners, unprotected sex….

10.  Dr. Brier (sp) identified 89% of BPD patients with the TSI test- and he developed the test. Goes against what the Dr. said. The Dr. does not want to back down he says it is not for diagnosing.

11. JM asks how many times he’s gone inside a brain and looked at it?  ‘Zero.’

Ever do/been at an autopsy?  ‘No.’

12. PDS test has no validity scales. Is it important that you’re truthful about the trauma? ‘It is of importance.’ The Dr. says he only fills out forms for the impaired. If filled out with no trauma still valid? ‘It would be questionable.’ Is sitting and talking to take this test a red flag?  ‘Yes.’

13. JM shows photos of skull injury. The Dr. has nit seen these. Asks if he can tell the trajectory…he can’t. His opinion is based on ME’s report and his background. JM asks: “To understand you would go to an expert?”  “Yes.”

 

JW is up:

  1. She goes over the court cases…he testified against the judges ‘friends’ and there were complaints about the judge who retired after the case. In the Clark case his affidavit was limited due to time. The 3rd case he was told he had excellent credentials.
  2. The money made today goes to the institute.
  3. ‘Floating profiles’ is not used , it has to do with pain.
  4. You don’t diagnose with the MMPI. BPD and PTSD have some similarities.
  5. The malingering could be a ‘cry for help.’
  6. The high schizophrenia could be alienation or lack of ego. The psychopathic deviant could be impulsivity. The MCMI would be a better test.
  7. The Brier article is old (2-3yrs) and is about chronic pain.
  8. He is relying on the ME’s report. The membrane is intact so how could brain be affected?
  9. On the PDS she could have exaggerated but she didn’t.

10. ME said where the bullet entered and stopped. It’s possible it didn’t go through the brain.